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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:45pm
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Chocaholic51

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Hi

How do I check before I ask someone to do work for me that they are legal? They are self employed.

Thank you

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 2:15pm

Chocaholic51 wrote on Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:45pm:

Hi

How do I check before I ask someone to do work for me that they are legal? They are self employed.

Thank you

Ask for references and examples of their previous work, never pay in full up front, if it is a big job partial payments may be needed to cover getting materials, always get receipts and invoices, ask to see their documentation that they are registered as self employed, if they object then they are probably not registered.

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 3:18pm

To add to John's reply, let them know in advance that you will be wanting a factura from them and will want to see details of their insurance which is easy enough for them to e-mail to you.

Chocaholic51

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:07pm

Thank you for responding. I will do that.

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:10pm

Ask them to show you one of their bills, and check that IVA is shown separately. If not then they may not be legally registered and paying IVA.

Chocaholic51

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:15pm

Thank you. Most helpful.

Kimmy11

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:11pm

Hi,

Under Spanish law you can't pay more than €1,000 in cash for any service or product, so even if your tradesman is legal, if they want you to pay more than that, they're trying to avoid tax.  Don't agree to it, as it's you, as well as the trader, who would be breaking the law and could be prosecuted.

Also, make sure that their service includes for obtaining any building licences that may be required, e.g. when we had a 5m x 3m patio laid for a new shed base, our builder obtained a Minor Works Licence from our Ayuntamiento (Town Hall) for €33.  It's not worth doing things illegally, to save such relatively small amounts of money - it will come back to bite you eventually.  Good on you for asking the right questions!

Kind regards, 

Kim

Chocaholic51

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 6:19pm

Thank you. Everyone has been very helpful.

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Posted: Fri Jul 5, 2019 11:14pm

The cash limit for a business transaction in Spain is still 2.500€. It was proposed in 2016 for a limit of 1.000€ never applied.

A fractura/invoice should be presented by all business for payment. Even for a deposit.

A fractura should include the business/traders address, telephone number, SL/NIF,NIE number. Letterheads, websites and other business documents should include the business details.

Invoice format should show sales amount, IVA/VAT. In the case of Autónomo to Autónomo a retentions section. Final total.

A deposit invoice may not include VAT/IVA this will be accounted for later in the final invoice as part of the sales amount.

It’s not recommended to pay a business a large amount in cash. Estate agents (rentals) may ask for cash because they don’t have the facilities for credit/debit cards and the delay in forwarding the owner payment. I’ve made the payment direct to the agents account and the owner with a bank transfer. An online transfer can be made and authenticated with iPad or a mobile phone. Payment is immediate. When the recipient has online banking and an app they can also verify straight away. There’s no need to walk about with a large amount of cash.

Only make payment for deposits, materials or work carried out when presented with a properly documented invoice.

If a trader is asking for cash money and not prepared to accept a bank transfer be suspicious.


Kimmy11

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Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:40am

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Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:40am

Yes, thank you.  It said that on the CAB Spain website, which isn't always accurate, but I've just checked it on Agencia Tributaria's website and you're correct,  the cash payment limit is still €2,500.

Kind regards, 

Kim

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