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90 rule is anightmare

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:46pm
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Enid

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Th rolling 90 /180 day rule is a nightmare. Going to apply for Visa. We’re over 70, any tips will be gratefully accepted, Enid Gale x

GrahamLynn

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:00pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:00pm

I presume that you hold a British passport if you are struggling with the Schengen 90/180 rule.

So to stay longer you will need to become a Spanish resident and the the visa you require is a Non Lucrative Visa.

There’s an excellent guide to everything you need to know here

How to apply for a Non-Lucrative visa (NLV)

Lynn

elinspain

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:02pm

Hello

 What Visa are you hoping to apply for --- do you want  to live here in Spain, if so & you have  British passports - you would need a Non Lucrative Visa = NLV from the Spanish Embassy in the UK

Cheers

Elinspain

aitchc1401

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:08pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:08pm

Hi Enid, 

   it is relatively easy to track the 90 days in 180 is you use a Schengen calculator - https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/visa-calculator/

It would be better and simpler if it was 180 in 360 days though!

Rgds,

Aitch.

Enid

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:19pm

Enid

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:19pm

GrahamLynn wrote on Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:00pm:

I presume that you hold a British passport if you are struggling with the Schengen 90/180 rule.

So to stay longer you will need to become a Spanish resident and the the visa you require is a Non Lucrative Visa.

There’s an excellent guide to everything you need to know here

How to apply for a Non-Lucrative visa (NLV)

Lynn

Hi there, we are hoping we can spend October to May in Pinoso. Guess it’s a non lucrative visa with a trip to Edinburgh for us. Thank you everyone for your advice, much appreciated, Enid xx

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Karate kid

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:39pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:39pm

Yes Brexit has destroyed many a persons dreams and plans of living outside of the UK. I believe that you will need to apply for a non lucrative visa. In order to apply you need €27k for the first person and €7k per person thereafter. Private medical insurance (not sure how that works if retired and S1?) Declare any health issues. If accepted the visa is issued for one year. Then reapply again whilst living in Spain. Then again after two years until five years has passed. Brexit!!!!

GrahamLynn

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:53pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:53pm

Enid wrote on Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:19pm:

Hi there, we are hoping we can spend October to May in Pinoso. Guess it’s a non lucrative visa with a trip to Edinburgh for us. Thank you everyone for your advice, much appreciated, Enid xx

You realise that by applying for the NLV you become a Spanish resident, which for the first 5 years restricts the amount of time you spend outside of Spain

Initially it’s  just not possible to spend an 8 month block in Spain and a 4 month block outside of Spain. 

Lynn

tebo53

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:54pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:54pm

Enid wrote on Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:46pm:

Th rolling 90 /180 day rule is a nightmare. Going to apply for Visa. We’re over 70, any tips will be gratefully accepted, Enid Gale x

Applying for and Gaining an NLV is not a way around the 90 day rule and you are virtually committing yourselves to being permanent residents here in Spain and all that goes with it like paying all your taxes on your income to the Spanish tax authorities etc.

Steve 

tebo53

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:58pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:58pm

Karate kid wrote on Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:39pm:

Yes Brexit has destroyed many a persons dreams and plans of living outside of the UK. I believe that you will need to apply for a non lucrative visa. In order to apply you need €27k for the first person and €7k per person thereafter. Private medical insurance (not sure how that works if retir...

...ed and S1?) Declare any health issues. If accepted the visa is issued for one year. Then reapply again whilst living in Spain. Then again after two years until five years has passed. Brexit!!!!

"Private medical insurance (not sure how that works if retired and S1?"

You can use the S1 healthcare scheme as your healthcare requirements and full cover instead of having private healthcare. 

Steve 

Darro

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:13pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:13pm

tebo53 wrote on Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:58pm:

"Private medical insurance (not sure how that works if retired and S1?"

You can use the S1 healthcare scheme as your healthcare requirements and full cover instead of having private healthcare. 

Steve 

And there it is again, the claim that an S1 is acceptable as proof of health care for the NLV.

For the n'th time of asking do you, or anyone, have first hand or otherwise verifiable evidence that this so at the TIE appointment?

I'm  not talking about what consulates may be doing but what happens on arrival in Spain because that's what counts in the end.

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