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Peter3473

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:21pm

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Golandrina wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:34pm:

Taken from the N332 Facebook page (this page and their website is run in collaboration with officers of the Guardia Civil for English speaking people):

RESIDENCY INFORMATION:- We know that there are still many rumours around that green residency certificates must be exchanged for the TIE by 31 December. Please be assured that this is not the case. While the Spanish Government has highlighted that there may be some advantages to having t...

...he TIE – it is more durable, contains biometric data and may speed up administrative processes and border crossing – they make it clear that the green certificate remains valid evidence of your residency status and rights under the Withdrawal Agreement, even after the end of the Transition Period. See their Q&A document for more detail. - You may be aware that some UK Nationals have been issued with TIEs with incorrect wording. We continue to work with the Spanish authorities on this issue. The Spanish have emphasised that these cards remain valid documents, however, we appreciate the desire of UK nationals to obtain a card with the correct wording and are awaiting further information from the Spanish authorities on the process for doing this.- We know that it is still difficult to get residency appointments in many areas. Please encourage anyone who is struggling to obtain an appointment to make sure they have all the documentation necessary for their application and to prove that they are legally living in Spain by the end of this year.- We have published a series of videos on residency on our Brits in Spain Facebook channel: an FAQ video, a video specifically for first time applicants and a third on exchanging the green certificate for a TIE. In addition, we have updated our page on gov.uk on registering as a resident in Spain.- If people are particularly struggling with the residency process as first-time applications, please do signpost them to the organisations that have received funding from the UK Nationals Support Fund to assist them. The level of support may vary depending on where in Spain you are, but their helplines are open to people from across the country. You can find their details here.

Taken from EuroWeekly News, The Peoples Paper, Costa Blanca South. Issue No 1840, 6-14 October 2020, Page 32, Titled LEGALLY SPEAKING. Is TIE obligatory, Q, After reading the article about TIE I am confused. I am British, and I am tax resident here in Spain. The article says that, `We suppose that you would apply for the new TIE.` Is it mandatory that we all have to change our existing residency card for something new, and if we do not, what could happen?  AL (by email)

A, If you intend to continue to reside in Spain, you need to exchange your present `Certificate of a European Union Citizen` for a TIE, a Tarjeta de Identification de Extranjero. This is because you are no longer a citizen of the European Union. This TIE is in fact a European Union card. It is based on Article 50 TEU in accordance with Article 18.4 of the UK withdrawal agreement. You should make the exchange before December 31. You must need Form EX23, which you can download from the internet and form 790 code 12 on which you pay the small fee and one identification card size photo. If you do not get the TIE, at some point next year you will be considered a non-resident of Spain.

DAVID SEARL, YOU AND THE LAW IN SPAIN. [email protected]

Kelvin1960

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:35pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:35pm

Peter3473 wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:21pm:

Taken from EuroWeekly News, The Peoples Paper, Costa Blanca South. Issue No 1840, 6-14 October 2020, Page 32, Titled LEGALLY SPEAKING. Is TIE obligatory, Q, After reading the article about TIE I am confused. I am British, and I am tax resident here in Spain. The article says that, `We suppose tha...

...t you would apply for the new TIE.` Is it mandatory that we all have to change our existing residency card for something new, and if we do not, what could happen?  AL (by email)

A, If you intend to continue to reside in Spain, you need to exchange your present `Certificate of a European Union Citizen` for a TIE, a Tarjeta de Identification de Extranjero. This is because you are no longer a citizen of the European Union. This TIE is in fact a European Union card. It is based on Article 50 TEU in accordance with Article 18.4 of the UK withdrawal agreement. You should make the exchange before December 31. You must need Form EX23, which you can download from the internet and form 790 code 12 on which you pay the small fee and one identification card size photo. If you do not get the TIE, at some point next year you will be considered a non-resident of Spain.

DAVID SEARL, YOU AND THE LAW IN SPAIN. [email protected]

This is the British Embassy video.

Changing Residencia card for TIE is not compulsory.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=630716360883658

Peter3473

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:02pm

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Kelvin1960 wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:52pm:

We were holding back for the same reason ... until there was some bluster in London a few weeks ago about rowing back on the Withdrawal Agreement. 

Then we decided to apply (as did several other acquaintances). 

Our appointment is tomorrow (fingerprints etc.).

The attached British Embassy video, Changing Residencia card for TIE is not compulsory. We were holding back...Until there was some bluster in London a few weeks ago about rowing back on the withdrawal agreement. Who was talking in a loud and aggressive, indignant way that made you change your mind and decide to apply to exchange your Residencia certificate/card for the new TIE Card.

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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:19pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:19pm

Peter3473 wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:02pm:

The attached British Embassy video, Changing Residencia card for TIE is not compulsory. We were holding back...Until there was some bluster in London a few weeks ago about rowing back on the withdrawal agreement. Who was talking in a loud and aggressive, indignant way that made you change your mi...

...nd and decide to apply to exchange your Residencia certificate/card for the new TIE Card.

The official line is that it is not compulsory to exchange Residency Cards for the TIE.

Like some others, we have chosen to do so, in case the political situation (UK-EU) worsens.

There is also the perceived benefit of having the TIE card - it is more robust than the Residency card, has a photo and fingerprints. So it acts as general ID. 

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:19am

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:19am

Kelvin1960 wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:19pm:

The official line is that it is not compulsory to exchange Residency Cards for the TIE.

Like some others, we have chosen to do so, in case the political situation (UK-EU) worsens.

There is also the perceived benefit of having the TIE card - it is more robust than the Residency card, has a photo and fingerprints. So it acts as general ID. 

I only stated what I read and posted this information on this thread, I gained my residency and collected my TIE Card in August and again posted my experiences on this website. All the best for tomorrow and remember to ask for a code number and date collecting you TIE.

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:19pm

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Peter3473 wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:19am:

I only stated what I read and posted this information on this thread, I gained my residency and collected my TIE Card in August and again posted my experiences on this website. All the best for tomorrow and remember to ask for a code number and date collecting you TIE.

Thanks

Yes, we got those

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:07pm

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Kelvin1960 wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:19pm:

Thanks

Yes, we got those

Great, just remembered it’s called a lote number and nearer to the collection date you should phone to make sure they are  running to schedule, as I made the mistake of not phoning and went on the date given and the card was not there, I had to return the next day! 

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:22pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:22pm

Peter3473 wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:07pm:

Great, just remembered it’s called a lote number and nearer to the collection date you should phone to make sure they are  running to schedule, as I made the mistake of not phoning and went on the date given and the card was not there, I had to return the next day! 

We were given numbered documents and told to collect the cards "in 4 weeks".

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:04pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:04pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:22pm:

We were given numbered documents and told to collect the cards "in 4 weeks".

In August the collection time was 3 weeks, so sounds like their getting busy.

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:34pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:34pm

Peter3473 wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:04pm:

In August the collection time was 3 weeks, so sounds like their getting busy.

At the beginning of July it was just 3 days!

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