Confusion over TIE - Page 5

Peter3473 wrote on Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54pm:

I received my new Spanish driving licence recently and it only had the basic entitlements to drive vehicles = AM, B, BE, up to 3.5 ton including trailers. I have lost my UK Licence entitlements to drive = A. B1, C1, D1, C1E, D1E, F, G, H, K, L, N, P, Q, !!!! I made enquiries and according to the ...

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...Spanish traffic rules, which licences can be transferred, B entitles you ( and everyone) to drive cars and trucks up to 3.500KG. BE is vehicles with the trailer but not more than 3.500KG in total. The restrictions for driving the others! states non profit? in Spain they are not transferred unless its for work, the same is for the Bus/Mini bus. Specific permission/exam is required in Spain to drive Buses and Trucks. Where in the UK everybody seems to get entitlements (or used to, I passed my UK driving test 1977) with the title for cars, that's why its restricted in Spain.

Golandrina wrote on Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:20pm:

My green piece of paper does not have an expiry date on it.

Kelvin1960 wrote on Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23pm:

I had a standard UK car licence, but it allowed me to drive up to 7500kg.

That went when I received my Spanish licence.

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I have no need to drive anything that big, so no worries ;-)

Peter3473 wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:21pm:

Taken from EuroWeekly News, The Peoples Paper, Costa Blanca South. Issue No 1840, 6-14 October 2020, Page 32, Titled LEGALLY SPEAKING. Is TIE obligatory, Q, After reading the article about TIE I am confused. I am British, and I am tax resident here in Spain. The article says that, `We suppose tha...

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...t you would apply for the new TIE.` Is it mandatory that we all have to change our existing residency card for something new, and if we do not, what could happen?  AL (by email)

A, If you intend to continue to reside in Spain, you need to exchange your present `Certificate of a European Union Citizen` for a TIE, a Tarjeta de Identification de Extranjero. This is because you are no longer a citizen of the European Union. This TIE is in fact a European Union card. It is based on Article 50 TEU in accordance with Article 18.4 of the UK withdrawal agreement. You should make the exchange before December 31. You must need Form EX23, which you can download from the internet and form 790 code 12 on which you pay the small fee and one identification card size photo. If you do not get the TIE, at some point next year you will be considered a non-resident of Spain.

DAVID SEARL, YOU AND THE LAW IN SPAIN. [email protected]

Peter3473 wrote on Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:31pm:

Good question, well if those people have residencia already in any way or form of a certificate or card want to apply to exchange these for a T.I.E card they can start the process now or in the near future, but I have also read/heard that there is no need to? Reading recently if they intend to co...

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...ntinue to reside in Spain, they need to exchange their present certificate of residence of a European Union Citizen for a T.I.E, a Tarjeta de Identification de Extranjero. this is because they are no longer a Citizen of the European Union? It is all based on the UK withdrawal agreement and a exchange should be made before the 31st December? If I have read the article correctly, if they do not get the T.I.E , at some point next year they will be considered a non-resident of Spain? 

With your question on the 90 day rule, I am on the understanding that the maximum days of 90 is permitted in 180 days, this can be broken up to suit your needs, but cannot be carried over in the next 180 days.  

Val0610 wrote on Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:04am:

So in other words you if, as a non-resident, you want you can spread the 90 days over a 6 month (180 day period) but if you spent only 80 days in a 180 day period you cannot spend 100 days in the next 180 day period-right?

What about any non-resident in Spain who has been in Spain since 1st Oct this year and until 31 Dec 2020? Could he/she start a fresh 90 days on 1st Jan 2021 under the new rules? Who knows?...

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Peter3473 wrote on Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:06pm:

I am on the understanding that you can not carry over any outstanding days of the first 180 day period into the next 180 day period? As for the question of October to December = roughly 90 days you can not come back to the Euro zone until April = again 90 days out of the Euro zone, I read recentl...

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...y somewhere that to keep coming back and forth, this can be achieved by doing 2 weeks in the Euro zone and 2 weeks out. I am also on the understanding that all third nation countries with their passports are scanned on arrival in the Euro zone and scanned on departure on a computerised system so days, weeks, months even years are monitored, as from the 31st December anyone holding a UK passport will be monitored, not only by Euro zone border officials, but also police and other authorities in the Euro zone, so even if stopped say for a driving offence and asked to show your passport, a computerised road will bring up the information when you entered the Euro zone. Technology has come a long way and big brother is watching.