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Posted: Wed May 5, 2021 2:38pm
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Helenx

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I have a few friends who are now worried , because they have not applied for Residency and I have tried to help, but it seems the regulations for showing your have a certain amount of money in your bank account, is outside their remit. What do they do now?.they are now classed as illegal immigrants and are worried about what happens to them ?..what actually would happen to them. Awkward question but I would like to pass on some good advice. Thank you in advance.

Paolo51

Posted: Wed May 5, 2021 3:12pm

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Posted: Wed May 5, 2021 3:12pm

Since Brexit all applications need to start at the Spanish Consulate in the UK so nothing they can do from Spain, firstly they must return to the UK to start the process.

In my opinion it does not bode well for them or anyone else in the same position as the situation they find themselves in usually catches up with them making things worse.

Peter3473

Posted: Wed May 5, 2021 4:24pm

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Posted: Wed May 5, 2021 4:24pm

TIE for UK Nationals, Those who can prove they were living here before the 31st December 2020 can still apply for the TIE under the withdrawal agreement conditions. They must provide proof of the following, Padron, Property deeds or Rental contract, Passport, Passport photos, Bank Statements, Certificate of bank balance, Proof of income, Medical protection, all must be up to date and must show Historic dates prior to the 31st December. They will have to prove the capacity to live on the income they receive and UK Bank accounts will be excepted as proof prior 31st December 2020, re historic dates. 

steve and jan

Posted: Wed May 5, 2021 10:37pm

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Posted: Wed May 5, 2021 10:37pm

Peter3473 wrote on Wed May 5, 2021 4:24pm:

TIE for UK Nationals, Those who can prove they were living here before the 31st December 2020 can still apply for the TIE under the withdrawal agreement conditions. They must provide proof of the following, Padron, Property deeds or Rental contract, Passport, Passport photos, Bank Statements, Cer...

...tificate of bank balance, Proof of income, Medical protection, all must be up to date and must show Historic dates prior to the 31st December. They will have to prove the capacity to live on the income they receive and UK Bank accounts will be excepted as proof prior 31st December 2020, re historic dates. 

Hi all in my humble opinion ,i would suggest things will calm down next year ,as spain cannot afford for no residencies ,we are two of them 

Kenbo

Posted: Thu May 6, 2021 7:20am

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Posted: Thu May 6, 2021 7:20am

This is a UK Government funded organisation, they may be able to help or provide the latest advice.

https://asociacionbabelia.org/babelia-will-provide-practical-support-to-uk-citizens-living-in-the-province-of-alicante/

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Kenbo

Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 9:28am

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Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 9:28am

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You are welcome.

Not a nice situation to find yourself in.

Have you employed one of the listed lawyers ?

oadbyman

Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 11:28am

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Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 11:28am

Peter3473 wrote on Wed May 5, 2021 4:24pm:

TIE for UK Nationals, Those who can prove they were living here before the 31st December 2020 can still apply for the TIE under the withdrawal agreement conditions. They must provide proof of the following, Padron, Property deeds or Rental contract, Passport, Passport photos, Bank Statements, Cer...

...tificate of bank balance, Proof of income, Medical protection, all must be up to date and must show Historic dates prior to the 31st December. They will have to prove the capacity to live on the income they receive and UK Bank accounts will be excepted as proof prior 31st December 2020, re historic dates. 

And I would assume after all of that then the Spanish state will say

Oh, you have been a resident for x years, you owe us a lot of back tax, and we are going to charger it to your assets if you do not pay up.

And if you pay up

They may say

Thank You

oadbyman

Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 11:32am

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Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 11:32am

steve and jan wrote on Wed May 5, 2021 10:37pm:

Hi all in my humble opinion ,i would suggest things will calm down next year ,as spain cannot afford for no residencies ,we are two of them 

I do not understand why firstly you did not do the right thing and register your residency.

Why Spain you think will bend for the few people who flouted the laws on residency and therefore tax. 

Stevec61

Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 12:35pm

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Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 12:35pm

oadbyman wrote on Fri May 7, 2021 11:28am:

And I would assume after all of that then the Spanish state will say

Oh, you have been a resident for x years, you owe us a lot of back tax, and we are going to charger it to your assets if you do not pay up.

And if you pay up

They may say

Thank You

And the Spanish state will be right in saying thank you & good riddance - anybody avoiding paying tax by living under the radar deserves to be hit with a back payment covering what they owe - plus fines - if/when they get caught. If you break the rules, you have to accept the consequences if caught - no good pleading innocence or being afraid of getting kicked out  as a non-resident 

oadbyman

Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 1:45pm

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Posted: Fri May 7, 2021 1:45pm

Stevec61 wrote on Fri May 7, 2021 12:35pm:

And the Spanish state will be right in saying thank you & good riddance - anybody avoiding paying tax by living under the radar deserves to be hit with a back payment covering what they owe - plus fines - if/when they get caught. If you break the rules, you have to accept the consequences if ...

...caught - no good pleading innocence or being afraid of getting kicked out  as a non-resident 

Looks like steve and jan above are in for a surprise.

€€€€€€€€€€€€ and lots of them

But the 'sort of people' who were and are under the radar are going to find a way to get back to the UK and afterward sort out there Spanish affairs saying they were not resident, and paying a small amout of Non resident tax.

Not the 'sort of people' that any country needs.

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