90 day rule

Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:32pm:

Hi Begona,

No, the 90 days are in a rolling 180 days, so it doesn't matter that the return date for his next trip is in July, as he will not have exceeded 90 days in a rolling 180 days.  I think you would find it easier to use a Schengen calculator - this is one of the best I've found so far:...

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Schengen Calculator - Calculate Your Legal Short-Stay in Europe (schengenvisainfo.com)

The regulations are strict and a failure to adhere could result in a fine, or worst case, being denied re-entry to Spain.

Kind regards,

Kim

begona wrote on Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:21pm:

This forum has always been helpful so here goes.   My son left Torrevieja 21 February.  52 days after Schengen.   I have him returning on 2 flights because not sure how this goes.  The first one is 7 June to 4 July, 28 days making total of  80 days.  Still not 90 day...

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...s, but 4 days July.   Next one leaving 30 June 76 days..  is it rigid that 3 months must be taken up to June and  3-months up to December.   Can you not make sure you do not exceed 180 days?    I have looked at all information but it is so confusing so many days in 6 month period etc. Which means until June.

Stevec61 wrote on Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:57am:

When did your son first enter the Schengen zone prior to him leaving Torrevieja in February? If this date was before 01/01/21 then the period of arrival up until 21st February will not count towards the 90 day period - I stand corrected if I’m wrong, but that is how I understand the rules?

If this is the case, his 90 out of 180 date will start on his next arrival date of 7th June...

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Have a go at inputting the upcoming dates on the calendar provided in the link sent by Kimmy, it’s simple to use and understand 

 

paulsav wrote on Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:45am:

Steve

I too could be wrong but if there is no entry date into Spain before 1/1/21, then I think the authorities would declare the 1/1/21 to be the start date for the 90 days so that trip would be counted. 

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Regards 

Pauline 

Stevec61 wrote on Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:03am:

Maybe this us the case Pauline, if the authorities are using the date of 01-01-21 for point of entry for those already in the country pre Brexit/Schengen then their 180 days will start then, but I don’t think anybody knows exactly exactly how this pans out unless it’s happened with them?!

Stevec61 wrote on Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:03am:

Maybe this us the case Pauline, if the authorities are using the date of 01-01-21 for point of entry for those already in the country pre Brexit/Schengen then their 180 days will start then, but I don’t think anybody knows exactly exactly how this pans out unless it’s happened with them?!

Stevec61 wrote on Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:08am:

Apologies Paulsav for referring to you as Pauline in previous post, autocorrect on my phone was to blame for that!