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Posted: Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:30pm
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Kasi

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Hi Lovely people!

Me and my partner will base ourselves in Torrevieja for a few months renting a flat and will look for a possible place to move on permanently in the area.

Would love to hear some advice for a new start here or just have a coffee, beer, and a good chat.

I  am (42) working as an interior designer and photographer. My partner (49) is a gardener and djing sometimes.

We ran away from the winter in the UK and wish so much to stay here longer.

All the best!

Kasia and Seb


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Posted: Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:36pm

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Posted: Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:36pm

Did you run away from the UK winter with EU passports? Or do you only have UK ones?

Kasi

Posted: Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:57pm

Kasi

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Posted: Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:57pm

Luckily EU Passports :)

Kimmy11

Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:56pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:56pm

Hi Kasi and Seb, and welcome to the forum!

As EU passport holders, you can stay in Spain for 90 days, following which you need to apply for residency if you plan to stay.   As EU citizens, this is fairly straightforward and can be done at your nearest Policia Nacional office - if you don't speak Spanish, a gestoría can help you with the applications for the cost of around €70 per person.  Given your ages, you'll need to prove cover for healthcare with private health insurance, but as you're still quite young, this shouldn't be too expensive (my husband and I are 64 and 62 respectively, and we pay €870 each per year for mid range cover with no pre-existing conditions).  You'll also need to prove income and/or savings of around €12,000.

As you start to formulate your longer term plans, do ask any other questions you have on here.  Renting is a great idea - buying and selling property in Spain is expensive, so if you plan to buy, renting will help you get it right first time.  

Kind regards,

Kim

TonySmith

Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:16pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:16pm

If you intend to work, you must register as autonomo, which can be expensive

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Kasi

Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:50pm

Kasi

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Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:50pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:56pm:

Hi Kasi and Seb, and welcome to the forum!

As EU passport holders, you can stay in Spain for 90 days, following which you need to apply for residency if you plan to stay.   As EU citizens, this is fairly straightforward and can be done at your nearest Policia Nacional office - if you don't speak Spanish, a gestoría can help you...

... with the applications for the cost of around €70 per person.  Given your ages, you'll need to prove cover for healthcare with private health insurance, but as you're still quite young, this shouldn't be too expensive (my husband and I are 64 and 62 respectively, and we pay €870 each per year for mid range cover with no pre-existing conditions).  You'll also need to prove income and/or savings of around €12,000.

As you start to formulate your longer term plans, do ask any other questions you have on here.  Renting is a great idea - buying and selling property in Spain is expensive, so if you plan to buy, renting will help you get it right first time.  

Kind regards,

Kim

Thank you Kim! 

That's very helpfull 

Golandrina

Posted: Fri Nov 4, 2022 2:59pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 4, 2022 2:59pm

A couple of websites that may be of help to you are as follows:

Citizens Advice Bureau Spain for bureaucratic stuff, and

N332 for anything to do with driving in Spain.   It is run in collaboration with officers of the Guardia Civil for English speaking people.

Grannyrose

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2022 9:23am

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Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2022 9:23am

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:56pm:

Hi Kasi and Seb, and welcome to the forum!

As EU passport holders, you can stay in Spain for 90 days, following which you need to apply for residency if you plan to stay.   As EU citizens, this is fairly straightforward and can be done at your nearest Policia Nacional office - if you don't speak Spanish, a gestoría can help you...

... with the applications for the cost of around €70 per person.  Given your ages, you'll need to prove cover for healthcare with private health insurance, but as you're still quite young, this shouldn't be too expensive (my husband and I are 64 and 62 respectively, and we pay €870 each per year for mid range cover with no pre-existing conditions).  You'll also need to prove income and/or savings of around €12,000.

As you start to formulate your longer term plans, do ask any other questions you have on here.  Renting is a great idea - buying and selling property in Spain is expensive, so if you plan to buy, renting will help you get it right first time.  

Kind regards,

Kim

Forgive me if I’m incorrect but I understood that EU passport holders can stay in any EU country for up to 183 days. After that, they will become residents and have to pay tax. 

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2022 10:08am

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Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2022 10:08am

Grannyrose wrote on Sun Nov 6, 2022 9:23am:

Forgive me if I’m incorrect but I understood that EU passport holders can stay in any EU country for up to 183 days. After that, they will become residents and have to pay tax. 

Hi Granny Rose,

I'm afraid you're incorrect.  Spain's residency laws state that a foreigner planning to move permanently to Spain must do so once they have been in the country for 90 days.  For EU nationals, this requires them to register on the foreigners list at their nearest Policia Nacional office.  In reality, many go over 90 days and so long as they don't exceed 182 days (6 months) in Spain - the point at which they become tax resident in Spain - the police will turn a "blind eye" to it.

This is why, prior to Brexit, non-resident UK citizens who liked to visit their Spanish holiday homes for more than 90 days were able to get away with it.  However, since the UK left the EU, member states have been strictly applying their residency laws to UK citizens.

Kind regards,

Kim

Caerbear100

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2022 10:50am

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Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2022 10:50am

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Nov 6, 2022 10:08am:

Hi Granny Rose,

I'm afraid you're incorrect.  Spain's residency laws state that a foreigner planning to move permanently to Spain must do so once they have been in the country for 90 days.  For EU nationals, this requires them to register on the foreigners list at their nearest Policia Nacional office....

...  In reality, many go over 90 days and so long as they don't exceed 182 days (6 months) in Spain - the point at which they become tax resident in Spain - the police will turn a "blind eye" to it.

This is why, prior to Brexit, non-resident UK citizens who liked to visit their Spanish holiday homes for more than 90 days were able to get away with it.  However, since the UK left the EU, member states have been strictly applying their residency laws to UK citizens.

Kind regards,

Kim

Hi, that information is correct. But we would normally stay no more then 90 days . Go home and if we wanted too come back the following day and start your 90 days. We do this very often in summer but not all the time. It suits us. But my point is there is a way around these things . Thanks John.

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