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Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 4:50pm
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Batchy28

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Hi everyone,me and my wife Sarah are looking to move to the torrevieja area in the next 6 months.could anyone give us a rough idea on the taxes we would pay as a non working couple (early retirement) cheers Batchy28.

RayBenidorm

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:25pm

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Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:25pm

21 percent sales tax - VAT

Batchy28

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:37pm

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Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:37pm

RayBenidorm wrote on Sun May 28, 2023 8:25pm:

21 percent sales tax - VAT

I thought it was high.you can't get a straight answer from the estate agents

Cheers Steve

marcliff

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:46pm

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Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:46pm

That question would obviously depend on many things. Can't guess at your income tax, of course, except to say the allowances in Spain are a lot less than UK. Certain government pensions have tax taken in your home country but everything else will be taxed in Spain. If you have a state pension that will be taxed in Spain.

However, local taxes if you are are resident.

IBI or the equivalent of council tax. Will depend on the house value, the size of the plot, the location and other things. Average for Torrevieja between 200 and 350 euro. Some less, some more.

Rubbish collection tax. About 78 euro a year. Some take it in two half payments and others just once a year.

If you have a car that would be the road tax which is collected by councils and varies by town. Depends on car, emissions and other things. A normal family saloon in Rojales is about 42 euro but about 90 euro in Torrevieja (more roads to look after).

When buying, there is a 10% tax on property. You are advised to account for 13 to 14 percent of the cost of the property for legal fees, taxes, connection of utilities, notary fees etc. Buy a property for 150,000 and you should add about 21,000 on top.

Not a tax but if you buy on a community you will likely pay community fees for upkeep. This can be very low (I know of one place that only pay 60 euro a year) or very high if you have lots of swimming pools, big gardens, lifts etc and I know of one which pays 2500 a year so always check on the community fees. 

Best of luck on your move. 

Batchy28

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 9:02pm

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Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 9:02pm

marcliff wrote on Sun May 28, 2023 8:46pm:

That question would obviously depend on many things. Can't guess at your income tax, of course, except to say the allowances in Spain are a lot less than UK. Certain government pensions have tax taken in your home country but everything else will be taxed in Spain. If you have a state pension tha...

...t will be taxed in Spain.

However, local taxes if you are are resident.

IBI or the equivalent of council tax. Will depend on the house value, the size of the plot, the location and other things. Average for Torrevieja between 200 and 350 euro. Some less, some more.

Rubbish collection tax. About 78 euro a year. Some take it in two half payments and others just once a year.

If you have a car that would be the road tax which is collected by councils and varies by town. Depends on car, emissions and other things. A normal family saloon in Rojales is about 42 euro but about 90 euro in Torrevieja (more roads to look after).

When buying, there is a 10% tax on property. You are advised to account for 13 to 14 percent of the cost of the property for legal fees, taxes, connection of utilities, notary fees etc. Buy a property for 150,000 and you should add about 21,000 on top.

Not a tax but if you buy on a community you will likely pay community fees for upkeep. This can be very low (I know of one place that only pay 60 euro a year) or very high if you have lots of swimming pools, big gardens, lifts etc and I know of one which pays 2500 a year so always check on the community fees. 

Best of luck on your move. 

Great,and my maximum budget is 150,000.you must be a mind reader, cheers Steve

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Bee2

Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:23pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:23pm

Your baseline to stay inside the €150,000 (I am presuming it is €150,000 not £150,000) would be properties around €130000. You should get a nice 2/3 bedroom apartment/duplex for that. 

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Batchy28

Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:37pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:37pm

Bee2 wrote on Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:23pm:

Your baseline to stay inside the €150,000 (I am presuming it is €150,000 not £150,000) would be properties around €130000. You should get a nice 2/3 bedroom apartment/duplex for that. 

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Thanks bee, I'm more interested in the taxes I pay after I've bought a property.ive read about Beckham's law,but what happens after 6years, will I be paying extra taxes when living in Spain on my English savings, batchy28

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Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:27pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:27pm

It's over to the residents on that one. Not sure anbody gets a 6 yr tax free break in Spain as a non working resident.Did you not say you are retired and moving to Spain to reside full-time. Google Modelo 720 and it will give you the lowdown on all foreign assets or this link will give you the current  tax bands for residents.

https://www.expertsforexpats.com/country/spain/tax/taxes-in-spain/

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marcliff

Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:38pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:38pm

The "Beckham's" law is for those who are coming to Spain on the digital nomad visa. You get reduced taxes for the first 5 years and then go onto normal taxation as a permanent resident after that. Not sure but I think there are some tax benefits if you are coming on a works or entrepreneur visa as well. Such as less social security payments at the start.

You are not taxed on your savings regardless of the visa but you are taxed on the interest accruing from that and, with a visa that is not the nomad one, that kicks in once you have been resident for more than 6 months in any one calendar year and you will pay income tax on all your world wide income (less government pensions which does not include the state pension). You are also taxed on income from shares, investments etc.

You will also be taxed on the sale of any property anywhere in the world if you sell after becoming a tax paying resident which kicks in once you have been in the country for more than 6 months in a calendar year.

Batchy28

Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:55pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:55pm

Bee2 wrote on Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:27pm:

It's over to the residents on that one. Not sure anbody gets a 6 yr tax free break in Spain as a non working resident.Did you not say you are retired and moving to Spain to reside full-time. Google Modelo 720 and it will give you the lowdown on all foreign assets or this link will give you the cu...

Me and my wife have stopped working now and we're both 56.we are both edging towards staying in the UK.maybe buying a appartment and going for the 180 maximum stay in spain.i know we can't be double taxed.thanks batchy28

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