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Hi can anyone recommend a store that sells butane gas ovens that deliver, removes the old one off site and installs the new one. Thanks
Posted: Sun Sep 6, 2026 3:24pm
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I find Amazon to be the best for delivery.
If you look, you'll see many say "services available" with many offering unpacking, de-installation and removal all at very reasonable cost. Installation might be more of an issue, as that requires a registered installer and I doubt you'd find any that will do that. I'd do my own install as it's quite simple, but I was a pipe fitter and that doesn't help you. So for that part you need to go to a more specialist supplier or get a gas installation engineer separately.
Posted: Mon Sep 7, 2026 1:02pm
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I don't know what is local to you.
Suggest you try Leroy Merlin, Carrefour, Euronics.
Cheers, J
Posted: Mon Sep 7, 2026 9:49pm
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As this will be a fixed installation with butane gas then it will have to be signed off and then checked every 5 years to get a boletin so I would suggest getting in touch with Cepsa or Repsol.
We use Cepsa and they will deliver when you have a contract with them. The price is nearly always cheaper than garages or ferraterias.
Posted: Mon Sep 7, 2026 11:06pm
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Flyingduck81 wrote on Mon Sep 7, 2026 9:49pm:
As this will be a fixed installation with butane gas then it will have to be signed off and then checked every 5 years to get a boletin so I would suggest getting in touch with Cepsa or Repsol.
We use Cepsa and they will deliver when you have a contract with them. The price is nearly always ch...Read more...
...eaper than garages or ferraterias.
That's an interesting point and one where red tape seems to suddenly become very grey, particularly in Spain, from what I've seen.
When I looked at those Amazon examples, one of the ovens had an area designed to hold a gas bottle.
And it's hardly a portable thing, although I suppose it could be.
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Posted: Tue Sep 8, 2026 10:41am
Thanks for all your replies and advice. I have managed to resolve the problem as the manufacture of our stove has finally agreed to come out and sort out the problem which has been ongoing for a couple of months.
Posted: Tue Sep 8, 2026 9:27pm
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Phil141 wrote on Tue Sep 8, 2026 10:41am:
Thanks for all your replies and advice. I have managed to resolve the problem as the manufacture of our stove has finally agreed to come out and sort out the problem which has been ongoing for a couple of months.
You will still need a boletin otherwise it will not be a legal installation. There is no grey area here.
Bottled gas installations in Spain must be signed off by a licensed technician with a Certificado de Instalación de Gas, commonly known as a boletín de gas (specifically the IRG-3 form for individual setups). [1, 2]
When You Need a Boletín
- New installations: Any newly built or newly plumbed fixed system connecting gas bottles (butane or propane) to appliances like cookers or water heaters. [1]
- Modifications: Altering or extending existing fixed gas pipework, or adding new fixed appliances. [1]
- Reconnection: Reactivating a gas supply or system that has been legally inactive or disconnected for an extended period (typically over two years). [1]
- Property transactions: Often requested during a home sale or by insurance providers to prove the installation meets current safety laws. [1]
- Portable appliances: A simple movable setup—such as a single portable gas heater attached directly via a flexible hose to one small gas bottle under 15 kg—does not require an initial installation boletín. [1]
- Periodic inspections: While fixed setups don't need a new installation boletín constantly, they are subject to mandatory safety inspections by an authorized technician every five years
Posted: Tue Sep 8, 2026 10:18pm
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Flyingduck81 wrote on Tue Sep 8, 2026 9:27pm:
You will still need a boletin otherwise it will not be a legal installation. There is no grey area here.
Bottled gas installations in Spain must be signed off by a licensed technician with a Certificado de Instalación de Gas, commonly known as a boletín de gas...
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... (specifically the IRG-3 form for individual setups). [1, 2]
When You Need a Boletín
New installations: Any newly built or newly plumbed fixed system connecting gas bottles (butane or propane) to appliances like cookers or water heaters. [1]Modifications: Altering or extending existing fixed gas pipework, or adding new fixed appliances. [1]Reconnection: Reactivating a gas supply or system that has been legally inactive or disconnected for an extended period (typically over two years). [1]Property transactions: Often requested during a home sale or by insurance providers to prove the installation meets current safety laws. [1]ExceptionsPortable appliances: A simple movable setup—such as a single portable gas heater attached directly via a flexible hose to one small gas bottle under 15 kg—does not require an initial installation boletín. [1]Periodic inspections: While fixed setups don't need a new installation boletín constantly, they are subject to mandatory safety inspections by an authorized technician every five years
I'd say there's definitely a grey area.
What you've posted above says so;
"Portable appliances: A simple movable setup—such as a single portable gas heater attached directly via a flexible hose to one small gas bottle under 15 kg—does not require an initial installation boletín"
Is a normal type gas stove moveable?
No, not to my mind.
But if it's fed by a single bottle with a flexible hose, that means it's not fixed, simple, to me.
Hence it's classed as portable.
I think the difference is that a solid piped installation is classed as fixed because it would be fed by a bottle bank or the grid, which makes it a lot more dangerous, obviously.
All that said, we don't even know what sort of setup it was in this case and it doesn't matter.
Given that my trade was pipefitter, where I manufactured and installed 4-12" gas supplies in many factories, but never had the paperwork to install domestically, I won't be losing any sleep over the hob that I've installed myself and tested for leaks, with a gas bottle.
Not that I'm recommending any other person should do that, but it's more to highlight the grey area.
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2026 9:00pm
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Badger1234 wrote on Tue Sep 8, 2026 10:18pm:
I'd say there's definitely a grey area.
What you've posted above says so;
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"Portable appliances: A simple movable setup—such as a single portable gas heater attached directly via a flexible hose to one small gas bottle under 15 kg—does not require an initial installation boletín"
Is a normal type gas stove moveable?
No, not to my mind.
But if it's fed by a single bottle with a flexible hose, that means it's not fixed, simple, to me.
Hence it's classed as portable.
I think the difference is that a solid piped installation is classed as fixed because it would be fed by a bottle bank or the grid, which makes it a lot more dangerous, obviously.
All that said, we don't even know what sort of setup it was in this case and it doesn't matter.
Given that my trade was pipefitter, where I manufactured and installed 4-12" gas supplies in many factories, but never had the paperwork to install domestically, I won't be losing any sleep over the hob that I've installed myself and tested for leaks, with a gas bottle.
Not that I'm recommending any other person should do that, but it's more to highlight the grey area.
An oven/cooker, as per the op is a fixed installation. It usually has an electrical connection to light the gas rings, therefore it is fixed. You don't cart your oven all over the house!
A portable heater is a totally different kettle of fish, it can be moved via the wheels from your lounge to the kitchen to the bathroom to the bedroom. You don't have to install it.
This is the clear difference.
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2026 9:41pm
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Flyingduck81 wrote on Wed Sep 9, 2026 9:00pm:
An oven/cooker, as per the op is a fixed installation. It usually has an electrical connection to light the gas rings, therefore it is fixed. You don't cart your oven all over the house!
A portable heater is a totally different kettle of fish, it can be moved via the wheels from your lou...Read more...
...nge to the kitchen to the bathroom to the bedroom. You don't have to install it.
This is the clear difference.
"attached directly via a flexible hose to one small gas bottle under 15 kg—does not require an initial installation boletín"
I've already agreed that a stove is not portable in my book.
But it's not fixed either, according to the above. That requires a solid pipe.
Like I said, a grey area that I wonder if has ever been argued in court?
I very much doubt it.
You have your opinion, I have mine. C'est la vie :-)
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