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Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:45pm
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I appreciate that it’s likely most people on the forum either obtained residency in Spain either before Brexit or through the NLV process post Brexit.

Indeed, there have been a number of very helpful posts aimed at detailing the process around the NLV which potentially provide those starting going through the process to avoid involving a solicitor if they are so inclined.

However, other than an odd question posed about it, am yet to see (and happy to be corrected) any post detailing the process that was needed for a digital nomad visa.

I’m currently looking at helping a friend potentially go through the process so wondered if I’d missed some helpful posts on here or whether anyone who has applied for and been granted it would be willing to share their experience.

if not, hopefully in due course I might be able to share something if my friend is ultimately successful!

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 3:00pm

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 3:00pm

George55 wrote on Sun May 26, 2024 2:45pm:

I appreciate that it’s likely most people on the forum either obtained residency in Spain either before Brexit or through the NLV process post Brexit.

Indeed, there have been a number of very helpful posts aimed at detailing the process around the NLV which potentially provide those starting going through the process to avoid involving a solicitor if they are so inclined....

...

However, other than an odd question posed about it, am yet to see (and happy to be corrected) any post detailing the process that was needed for a digital nomad visa.

I’m currently looking at helping a friend potentially go through the process so wondered if I’d missed some helpful posts on here or whether anyone who has applied for and been granted it would be willing to share their experience.

if not, hopefully in due course I might be able to share something if my friend is ultimately successful!

There have been quite a few threads on here with the same question, many of them providing links to how it works and others with peoples' experiences of getting them.

For example

Digital Nomad Visa

Rules for Nomad Visa

New Digital Nomad Visa

And many others. Just put in nomad in the search box and loads come up or simply use Google to get the official sites.

George55

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 9:31pm

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 9:31pm

marcliff wrote on Sun May 26, 2024 3:00pm:

There have been quite a few threads on here with the same question, many of them providing links to how it works and others with peoples' experiences of getting them.

For example

Digital Nomad Visa

Rules for Nomad Visa

New Digital Nomad Visa

And many others. Just put in nomad in the search box and loads come up or simply use Google to get the official sites.

That's not really an answer to the question I at least thought I had asked.

I'm comfortable with all the documentation (there's enough internet postings about what solicitors say need to be done) - but what I'm interested in is anyone on these boards who has actually done it and got one.

None of those threads provide that and none that I found on search do either.

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Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:14am

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Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:14am

George55 wrote on Sun May 26, 2024 9:31pm:

That's not really an answer to the question I at least thought I had asked.

I'm comfortable with all the documentation (there's enough internet postings about what solicitors say need to be done) - but what I'm interested in is anyone on these boards who has actually done it and got one.

None of those threads provide that and none that I found on search do either.

Perhaps you may find this link helpful:

https://spainguru.es/2023/05/10/first-hand-experience-approved-spanish-digital-nomad-application/

George55

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:16pm

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Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:16pm

Thanks John - that is helpful and highlights there are a number of different ways of ending up with the same visa (irrespective of whether you are employed or as a contractor).

The one thing that seems to be able to happen if you come over as an employee (from the UK) is that you can:

(i) remain on your UK company payroll (rather than moving across to a Spanish payroll)

(ii) elect to continue to pay NI contributions in the UK

(iii) complete a form and submit it to HMRC such that it means that while you pay NI on your salary in the UK, you get a PAYE code which means no tax is deducted.

(iv) pay your income tax in Spain (potentially at an advantaged rate under what is effectively "Beckhams Law"

(v) apply for an S1 from the UK such that you are allowed to register in the Spanish Health service (with no need for private medical insurance) because the S1 confirms you are still paying NI into a country that has an agreement with Spain.

All in all, if correct, that's a potentially very good outcome I think for any individual looking at possibly doing this.

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 7:48am

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It is my understanding that an S1 can only be issued to someone who is in receipt of a UK State Pension. An S1 may also be issued if you were in receipt of one of the few exportable benefits, which in most cases the applicant must have been officially resident in the EU prior to 1 January 2021. This link will provide you with more detailed information:

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/healthcare-abroad/moving-abroad/planning-your-healthcare/#:~:text=If%20you%20move%20to%20an,known%20as%20an%20S1%20form.

Once someone has been officially resident in Spain for one year they can apply to join the Convenio Especial. If accepted this will provide the applicant with full access to the Spanish healthcare system. However, prescription costs must be met in full by the applicant. The cost is €60 under age 65 and €157 over age 65. This link will provide further information:

https://www.gva.es/es/inicio/procedimientos?id_proc=17044

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 8:53am

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 8:53am

John123456 wrote on Wed May 29, 2024 7:48am:

It is my understanding that an S1 can only be issued to someone who is in receipt of a UK State Pension. An S1 may also be issued if you were in receipt of one of the few exportable benefits, which in most cases the applicant must have been officially resident in the EU prior to 1 January 2021. T...

...his link will provide you with more detailed information:

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/healthcare-abroad/moving-abroad/planning-your-healthcare/#:~:text=If%20you%20move%20to%20an,known%20as%20an%20S1%20form.

Once someone has been officially resident in Spain for one year they can apply to join the Convenio Especial. If accepted this will provide the applicant with full access to the Spanish healthcare system. However, prescription costs must be met in full by the applicant. The cost is €60 under age 65 and €157 over age 65. This link will provide further information:

https://www.gva.es/es/inicio/procedimientos?id_proc=17044

That was also my understanding before drilling further into this.

Apply for healthcare cover in the EU, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway or Switzerland (CA8454) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Following through the "Who can apply" you will see that it references that while you normally pay NI in the country of tax residency, that doesn't always have to be the case.

So the employer would complete this form:

Tell HMRC if you're sending employees to work abroad (CA3821) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

& then the employee could apply for CA8454 to get coverage - effectively via an S1 (as is referenced a number of times on the various pages).

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 9:26am

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 9:26am

Just to add to my last post - this was the underlying reason I posed the initial question really - ideally, I'd like to see if my understanding does align with what could happen to someone in reality (applying from the UK and staying on UK payroll).

The last thing you'd want is for an application to be rejected on a technicality (albeit thankfully the visa fees of the digital nomad visa are much less than that of an NLV).

I imagine at some point there will need to be some formal (and no doubt slow) communication with HMRC etc to establish exactly what they provided vis a vie Spanish requirements to approve.

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 10:05am

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 10:05am

George55 wrote on Wed May 29, 2024 8:53am:

That was also my understanding before drilling further into this.

Apply for healthcare cover in the EU, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway or Switzerland (CA8454) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Following through the "Who can apply" you will see that it references that while you normally pay NI in the country of tax residency, that doesn't always have to be the case.

So the employer would complete this form:

Tell HMRC if you're sending employees to work abroad (CA3821) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

& then the employee could apply for CA8454 to get coverage - effectively via an S1 (as is referenced a number of times on the various pages).

That being the case it's  to good an opportunity to miss.

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