Returning to spain from uk - Page 2

Davidmx5 wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:48pm:

I've not applied for residentia because , I dont earn 24k min a year,  and I have not got 10k in the bank ! I live with my brother who's residentia and has lived here for 15yrs  . I'm a carer and I work in uk but live with my bro. I have a spanish registered car, I have spanish bank acc...

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...ount , I'm registered with the police , I'm registered to vote,  I have a padron  but according to the Spanish government I'm not wealthy enough to live here ! Even tho I've not been entitled to or claimed a bloody centimos and  in fact I ve never earned as much as 24k a year all my life !! So, why has such a high limits been set on people  to live here 🤔, to achieve what? I'm not a burden to their system -DONT get it ! I cant get any work in spain as I dont speak spanish well enough. I've contributed to the spanish economy for 40 odd years and I still do , I do shopping here, I go to Spanish bars spending my hard earned money , I've had about 3 jobs since I've been here (British businesses ) based in spain and I paid spanish taxes but theres no work here , so i trained in spain to be a carer and this is my reward , yeah thanks Spain -arseholes ! 

Peter3473 wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:15pm:

Posted On another thread, Permitted reasons from the British government to leave the UK, does not constitute permission to enter Spain. 

Davidmx5 wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:38pm:

Maybe I should try n enter spain via a rubber dinghy,  via the med , like thousands do , they re welcome arent they ! Another answer to your remark regarding , illegally or under the radar (as you so put it) , I've an NIE number, registered with the police  , I've an employment number ,...

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... I've a padron -UNDER THE RADAR !? Also ,I've not given out any personal details , so dont get what ur on about ! So please no more negative remarks thanks 

Martyn1986 wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:53pm:

N.I.E's are only valid as long as you continue employment then they expire after 3years

Angebadge wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:02pm:

Hi Martyn 

I’m sure NIE’s are for life? Much as the National insurance number is in the U.K.? 🤪🥂

Davidmx5 wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:48pm:

I've not applied for residentia because , I dont earn 24k min a year,  and I have not got 10k in the bank ! I live with my brother who's residentia and has lived here for 15yrs  . I'm a carer and I work in uk but live with my bro. I have a spanish registered car, I have spanish bank acc...

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...ount , I'm registered with the police , I'm registered to vote,  I have a padron  but according to the Spanish government I'm not wealthy enough to live here ! Even tho I've not been entitled to or claimed a bloody centimos and  in fact I ve never earned as much as 24k a year all my life !! So, why has such a high limits been set on people  to live here 🤔, to achieve what? I'm not a burden to their system -DONT get it ! I cant get any work in spain as I dont speak spanish well enough. I've contributed to the spanish economy for 40 odd years and I still do , I do shopping here, I go to Spanish bars spending my hard earned money , I've had about 3 jobs since I've been here (British businesses ) based in spain and I paid spanish taxes but theres no work here , so i trained in spain to be a carer and this is my reward , yeah thanks Spain -arseholes ! 

Martyn1986 wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:06pm:

Nope, the green a4 N.I.E is your number for work which (when i applied) expired after 3months if you didnt work,i know it changed abit it 10years but went for residency because its your nie and for "life" 

Angebadge wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:09pm:

I’m confused here. I’ve never worked in Spain and got my NIE eight years ago, in order to purchase my first property. It’s never been renewed and I certainly know it was valid just recently when I was requested to provide if 🤪🥂

Martyn1986 wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:21pm:

Your N.I.E is a number you need to work and also to maybe buy something, dont know about a house because my family homes are in the UK and Italy, (although found out yesterday at the estate agents that spanish are allowed a higher percentage mortgage) but it definitely expires, however it can sti...

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...ll be used in the same way an out of date passport or driver's license can be used as ID. But now with the new requirements i don't think the a4 N.I.Es are accepted anywhere, its residencia or T.I.E. Your residencia includes an nie but means you are now a resident of spain which gives you similar benefits as the spanish. 

Angebadge wrote on Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:44pm:

This is an extract from the guides set up by a well regarded (for his knowledge at least) member. It’s part of a longer document about NIE’s, but this is the part relevant here 🤪🥂

EXPIRY?

Once an NIE number is assigned, it's yours for life. In fact, even if you snuff it, it will never be assigned to anyone else....

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The actual NIE certificate itself is, however, a little bit different. For most of the time I've lived in Spain, the certificates have not had an expiry date and, at the moment, do not do so.

However, there was a period a few of years ago when certificates were issued with a three months validity. In some ways this was understandable for anyone who ticked Residencia (residence), rather than Estancia (stay), on the application form, as anyone taking up residence in Spain for ninety days or more is legally required to apply for residency. Similarly, anyone who ticked Estancia could be regarded as being required to apply for a certificate of non-residency if they have a property here. Having once got either residency or a certificate of non-residency, then the NIE effectively becomes redundant.