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John56

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:20pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:20pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:15pm:

That's the document I posted yesterday. 

Nakabandi could answer his own question if he did what I suggested yesterday, i.e. contact the company's Head Office himself and ask his question.  He was happy enough to suggest that that was what he was going to do, when he thought the "Av company" representative was telling him a "pack of...

... lies".  He's now had confirmation that she wasn't lying, so why doesn't he just raise his queries with the company?  If the "Av company" is Avalon, I could even give him the contact details, as I have a funeral plan with them.

Kim, you are forgetting that some people will ask a series of questions without taking the time to read the replies.

Nakabandi

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:21pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:21pm

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Hello Ray my good friend.

My revised question was quite specific; the UK government’s website does not mention anything relative to my question. I am not interested in coffin bearer’s procedures. Do you know the answer to my question?

Have a good day my friend.


Nakabandi

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:34pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:34pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:15pm:

That's the document I posted yesterday. 

Nakabandi could answer his own question if he did what I suggested yesterday, i.e. contact the company's Head Office himself and ask his question.  He was happy enough to suggest that that was what he was going to do, when he thought the "Av company" representative was telling him a "pack of...

... lies".  He's now had confirmation that she wasn't lying, so why doesn't he just raise his queries with the company?  If the "Av company" is Avalon, I could even give him the contact details, as I have a funeral plan with them.

Hello kimmy how are you.

What do you do when Avalon refuse to answer or reply.

Have a good day Kimmy.


Kimmy11

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:49pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:49pm

Hi Nakabandi,

I've contacted Avalon on two separate occasions since I purchased their funeral plan and in both instances they responded to me within 24 hours.

Regards,

Kim

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:56pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:56pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:49pm:

Hi Nakabandi,

I've contacted Avalon on two separate occasions since I purchased their funeral plan and in both instances they responded to me within 24 hours.

Regards,

Kim

Hi Kim

But you are a existing punter. Can you ask my revised question for the benefit of all members and readers?

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:17pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:17pm

Hi Nakabandi,

I'm afraid I don't understand the point of your statement.  Let me explain why:

Yesterday, you visited Carrefour late afternoon and posted your first question at 5.34pm, to which both I and Movingon responded.  You asked a second question at 8.32pm, which I answered.  At 10.05pm, you asked, "Do relatives living in the UK or Spain have a legal liability that can be legally enforced to pay for funeral costs should they have a relative that dies in Spain. That is assuming the relative has the means to pay, but may not want to pay", at which point I suggested you contact the company direct.

Less than 24 hours later, you're asking, " What do you do when Avalon refuse to answer or reply"?  Are you suggesting that you've contacted them at some point since 5.34pm yesterday evening and they haven't responded?

Regards,

Kim
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:55pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:55pm

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Hello Ray how are you.

Of course Spanish authorities will try all tactics to get relatives to pay the funeral costs in order they don’t have to bear the costs, but I asked what is the legal position, which everyone seems to be ignoring and funeral plan companies are manipulating to pressure sell. All I want is the truth about the legal position and not inaccurate moral opinions, are funeral plan sellers lying?. 

The revised question was:-

Do relatives living in the UK or Spain have a legal liability that can be legally enforced to pay for funeral costs should they have a relative that dies in Spain. That is assuming the relative has the means to pay, but may not want to pay.

Is it a simple fact your skint brother has died and you are paying for the funeral like it or not, and if you don’t pay we will get a court order and send in the bailiffs to take assets equal to the debt of the funeral costs.

Need to be met by the family is not legally responsible and forced to pay if they do not wish to pay.

''Funeral arrangements When someone dies in Spain and the next of kin is in the UK or abroad, Spanish authorities normally notify the British Consulate in the area where the person has died. The British Consulate will do whatever they can to trace the next of kin as soon as possible and would ask the UK police to pass on the sad news. However you might also be notified about the death directly by someone else, for example a local friend of the deceased, a doctor, a social worker or a Spanish police officer. In general, Spanish funeral companies are modern and well-equipped companies and are used to working with foreigners. Some have English-speaking staff, but you should check with the funeral company, especially in rural areas. According to Spanish national law, the deceased must either be (1) preserved (maintained at low temperature) or (2) embalmed by a funeral director within 48 hours of the death. In the case of foreign nationals, funeral directors usually choose to embalm the deceased (as opposed to preservation) as this is a national legal requirement for transferring deceased persons out of Spanish territory. The deceased's next of kin, or a formally appointed representative, must decide whether to repatriate the deceased to the UK or carry out a local burial or cremation. If there is no insurance cover, the cost of repatriation or burial will need to be met by the family. Neither the Foreign and Commonwealth Office nor the British Consulates in Spain have budgets to meet these costs. If you, as next of kin, are in the UK, you will be able to liaise directly with the local British Consulate dealing with the case, telling them how you wish to proceed with the cremation or burial, where you wish this to take place and details of who is taking responsibility for the costs involved. Please note that the European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) does not cover funeral arrangements.''


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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:47am

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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:47am

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Hello Ray my good friend

The question is quite simple.

Do relatives living in the UK or Spain have a legal liability that can be legally enforced to pay for funeral costs should they have a relative that dies in Spain. That is assuming the relative has the means to pay, but may not want to pay.

Is it a simple fact your skint brother has died and you are paying for the funeral like it or not, and if you don’t pay we will get a court order and send in the bailiffs to take assets equal to the debt of the funeral costs.

If you do not know why post.

All I am asking is what is the legal position. Not moral best guess opinions, Brexit debts and non tax payers.

I will email the British Consulate, but they have a habit of not replying.

Thank you, all the best, lets not fall out over this.


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Posted: Fri Sep 6, 2019 6:45am

No it will cost around the same 2-3000 the thing is that the Spaniards have this tradition to pay for their funeral monthly 

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Posted: Fri Sep 6, 2019 2:32pm

Thank you for the link.  It is always easier than trawling through the whole uk gov website. 

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