marcliff wrote on Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:53pm:
We charge 10% extra on community fees for those who rent their properties.
Why??
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:18am
marcliff wrote on Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:53pm:
We charge 10% extra on community fees for those who rent their properties.
Why??
Because the people they rent to use the facilities more than others. Even things like parking spaces. It was also incorporated in the new Horizontal Law that communities can charge up to 20% more for rented properties. It helps to pay the increase in costs to pool maintenance and gardens being used more. We also open an extra pool and have to have lifeguards during the summer months when most rentals take place.
In addition, some renters (not all) don't know how to behave and we have to employ a security guard from July to September to patrol the area. All extra costs to the community.
(Not my personal view, by the way, but the way it was put by the admin and committee who have access to the way money is spent and increased costs).
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:10pm
marcliff wrote on Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:45am:
Because the people they rent to use the facilities more than others. Even things like parking spaces. It was also incorporated in the new Horizontal Law that communities can charge up to 20% more for rented properties. It helps to pay the increase in costs to pool maintenance and gardens being us...
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...ed more. We also open an extra pool and have to have lifeguards during the summer months when most rentals take place.
In addition, some renters (not all) don't know how to behave and we have to employ a security guard from July to September to patrol the area. All extra costs to the community.
(Not my personal view, by the way, but the way it was put by the admin and committee who have access to the way money is spent and increased costs).
We let our property to a couple for 1 month a year, no car don't use pool only thing they use is the gate in and out, I'm dam sure I'm not paying an extra 20% for that
BruceK wrote on Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:09pm:
I would ask 2 questions, are there really that many that it 'ruined' the place, and if so why was it not addressed by your association BEFORE it was ruined? I'm not a fan of these rentals, but 1 or 2 in an area isnt the end of the world
It's not just 1 or 2, in the immediate vicinity in my block for instance it is 5 out of 6. Our Administrator is now aware that neighbours find this far too high, bear in mind that 2 bedroom apartments have 6 people staying in them by sticking a set of bunk beds in one of the bedrooms. And this is approved by tourist licensing office. This is why I say the resulting coming and going, noise and mess can ruin a community. Don't let it happen to yours.
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:12pm
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Oxonia wrote on Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:43pm:
It's not just 1 or 2, in the immediate vicinity in my block for instance it is 5 out of 6. Our Administrator is now aware that neighbours find this far too high, bear in mind that 2 bedroom apartments have 6 people staying in them by sticking a set of bunk beds in one of the bedrooms. ...
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... And this is approved by tourist licensing office. This is why I say the resulting coming and going, noise and mess can ruin a community. Don't let it happen to yours.
The Tourist License states a max capacity for the property. It is possible, (especially if let through agents), that number stated on the license is being exceeded. The vast majority of two bedroom apartments are licensed for 4 people, although some with larger rooms or large lounges can be licensed for 5 or 6 guests. There is a minimum square meter allowance per person for a bedroom, so if a standard size reasonably modern Spanish apartment, there little chance the second bedroom is large enough for more than two guests legally. I would suggest you note the VT (License) number of the apartments you say are hosting 6 people and check them against the online regional website, which shows the max capacity permitted. Report over occupancy, it is a breach of the License, a fineable offence under the regulations. Your administrators should be taking this seriously; if they are aware of apartments that either are not Licensed being rented as holiday lets, or are aware of over occupancy, and doing nothing about it, then they need to be held accountable as they are not fulfilling their legal responsibilities.
marcliff wrote on Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:45am:
Because the people they rent to use the facilities more than others. Even things like parking spaces. It was also incorporated in the new Horizontal Law that communities can charge up to 20% more for rented properties. It helps to pay the increase in costs to pool maintenance and gardens being us...
Read more...
...ed more. We also open an extra pool and have to have lifeguards during the summer months when most rentals take place.
In addition, some renters (not all) don't know how to behave and we have to employ a security guard from July to September to patrol the area. All extra costs to the community.
(Not my personal view, by the way, but the way it was put by the admin and committee who have access to the way money is spent and increased costs).
Surely there is no difference between the actual owners of the property and any renters using the facilities. If all the owners were out during the summer months it would be busy also. I think for some reason on some urbs there is a certain dislike for non residents from the permanent ones who seem to feel they own the place and the ‘holidaymakers’ are a nuisance.
Given that to rent you have to obtain a licence, get the correct insurance, no doubt pay a Keyholder and a cleaner and then pay tax on it all, there’s little profit to be made from someone renting their apartment a few weeks a year.
Raising further charges won’t stop any of the problems you describe. I would vote tbough, for people who let their dogs bark and leave mess in the urb to be charged more!
Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2024 10:30pm
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marcliff wrote on Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:53pm:
We charge 10% extra on community fees for those who rent their properties.
I was just wondering why? If you rent the property then they are not using any more of the facilities than if they lived there permanently as the owner. What justification is there to charge a supplementary amount. You pay community fees for the upkeep and maintenance of the community and why would that cost change if someone other than the owner is staying there?
Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2024 10:31pm
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julietony wrote on Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:34pm:
Surely there is no difference between the actual owners of the property and any renters using the facilities. If all the owners were out during the summer months it would be busy also. I think for some reason on some urbs there is a certain dislike for non residents from the permanent ones who se...
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...em to feel they own the place and the ‘holidaymakers’ are a nuisance.
Given that to rent you have to obtain a licence, get the correct insurance, no doubt pay a Keyholder and a cleaner and then pay tax on it all, there’s little profit to be made from someone renting their apartment a few weeks a year.
Raising further charges won’t stop any of the problems you describe. I would vote tbough, for people who let their dogs bark and leave mess in the urb to be charged more!
My sentiments exactly but you beat me to it.
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