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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:14pm
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As non residents we came out to Spain on November 29th and stayed for 21 days before going back to the UK. We then returned to Spain on January 9th and were hoping to remain here for another 69 days, making a total of 90 days.

However, when we entered  our dates on the Schengen website it indicated that we had to leave Spain by the 26th of February ie within 90 days of arriving in late November.

It seems unlikely that the Schengen website is giving wrong information but we're hoping that's not the case,

Please advise.

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:44pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:44pm

Hello George. It tells you that if you re enter the Schengen area again on 20th December 2021, you can stay for another 69 days, and you must leave again on 26th February. 

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:03pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:03pm

I’ve just put your dates in from your first trip and your second trip here’s a screen shot. 

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:03pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:03pm

George OTIG wrote on Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:14pm:

As non residents we came out to Spain on November 29th and stayed for 21 days before going back to the UK. We then returned to Spain on January 9th and were hoping to remain here for another 69 days, making a total of 90 days.

However, when we entered  our dates on the Schengen website it indicated that we had to leave Spain by the 26th of February ie within 90 days of arriving in late November....

 

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It seems unlikely that the Schengen website is giving wrong information but we're hoping that's not the case,

Please advise.

Looking at the Schengen calculator ( https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/visa-calculator/ ) If you return 9th Jan 2022 you can have a continuous stay until 18th March 2022 before breeching the 90 day rule. Do check that you travelling days are within this period.



Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:16pm

George OTIG

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:16pm

Thanks for your help resolving this. I didn't see how I could enter a second stay on the calculator, but I do now and agree with your two calculations. 

Again, many thanks.

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28pm

Hi,

Not sure if this is of any help but I arrived on the 28th October and left the end of November and have until the 25th January, after which my 90 days is up and even though I have been back in the UK since end of November, I have to wait another 90 days before I can go back which will be the 26th April.. phew.

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:23am

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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:23am

Davidastbury wrote on Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28pm:

Hi,

Not sure if this is of any help but I arrived on the 28th October and left the end of November and have until the 25th January, after which my 90 days is up and even though I have been back in the UK since end of November, I have to wait another 90 days before I can go back which will be the 26th...

 

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... April.. phew.

Hi David. My confusion was similar to your case. I think if you put your dates into the calculator you'll find that you're entitled to be here for a other couple of months. Your time in the UK doesn't affect your 90 days allowance.

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:36pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:36pm

George OTIG wrote on Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:23am:

Hi David. My confusion was similar to your case. I think if you put your dates into the calculator you'll find that you're entitled to be here for a other couple of months. Your time in the UK doesn't affect your 90 days allowance.

Hi George,

My impression is that the clock starts ticking as soon as you enter the euro zone, irrespective of where you spend the 90 days. Then once outside of the EU you have to wait 90 days before you can go back.. When I put the dates into the calculator it says my last day is the 25th January.. that's it for me until April. Just one of the many benifits of brexit I guess..

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:48am

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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:48am

Davidastbury wrote on Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28pm:

Hi,

Not sure if this is of any help but I arrived on the 28th October and left the end of November and have until the 25th January, after which my 90 days is up and even though I have been back in the UK since end of November, I have to wait another 90 days before I can go back which will be the 26th...

 

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... April.. phew.

David, your calculations are not right, you have 90 in 180 days, which doesn’t mean exactly 90’dats after your first date of entry.

Have you tried using the Schengen app, try adding dates in April/May and you will see that you are eligible to stay!

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06am

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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06am

Stevec61 wrote on Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:48am:

David, your calculations are not right, you have 90 in 180 days, which doesn’t mean exactly 90’dats after your first date of entry.

Have you tried using the Schengen app, try adding dates in April/May and you will see that you are eligible to stay!

Yes, I did use the calculator and it came up as the last day I could be in the Schengen area was the 25th Jan..

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