TIE

Thank you for your help 

Yes, things are very confusing when it comes to Visas.

We arrived here a little over a month ago from the States.

We have a gold real estate investors visa.

We thought we needed to go immediately to get a TIE card and wasted time and days driving around trying to fisure out how to do it. We thought we needed an appointment but no appointments were available.

We got different information from just about everybody and finally ended up speaking with a lawyer in Alicante.

As it turns out we do not need to do anything until we get closer to the 365 days allowed.

So that is where you are at now... she told us that when we are close to the 365 days she will send a wire to Madrid with the paper work and then all we need to do is get fingerprints.. so easy.

So to make a long story short I suggest you get a lawyer. That is the easiest way.

All my best,

Lisa

Hi Lisa Anne, if you were replying to the original enquiry I'm afraid that you are incorrect- they do not need a lawyer (Abogado).

As Ray correctly pointed out, a UK national who already holds a Spanish Residencia needs to do nothing. Their Residencia remains completely valid after 31.12.20 and moving into the future. 

The TIE is a card that will be issued to all NEW applications. A few people who have old Residencia A4 size paper certificates are opting to change for the card sized TIE but there is no obligation to do so.

(Glad to see you got your move done, hope you're enjoying it there)

Kind regards, Steve

Hi Steve,

I did not realise that the question regarding the TIE came from someone who was from the UK.

As I said in our response we are from America and so I did not realise that the rules are different.

I am guessing that it also is different depending on what type of Visa you have.

From what we gather because we have a Gold Visa it is quite simple to get our TIE when we need it.

There is so much information out there for UK citizens but really so little if any for Americans.

Thank you for you for your response. As of now our 45ft container is sitting at the Valencia port ( 9 days!!) Can not wait for it to get here.

Lisa

Hi Lisa, thanks for your reply, bet you can't wait to see your own belongings again!

Most of the debate on the forum surrounds how British people are affected by Brexit. The UK has left the EU but is in a year long Transition Period that ends on 31.12.20

On 1.1.21 the criteria for UK nationals attaining Residencia are changing and becoming more onerous in terms of saving and earnings. Successful new applications for Residencia will be given a TIE card. There were quite a few threads dedicated to how to apply for the TIE but I think, at least at first, there were quite a few existing Brits with the "old" Residencia who thought they might have to exchange to the TIE. It has now been established that they don't have to, but occasionally we see people who are still getting the "wrong" advice for one reason or another. There are plenty unscrupulous Gestors and Abogados who will quite happily charge Brits to exchange to TIE although these companies are well aware it is not necessary to do so. The one advantage for British nationals exchanging to a TIE is that it's biometric so may have some potential additional benefit in some scenarios, but the right to live and work in Spain is unaffected by retaining the old Residencia certificate. 

Visas are a whole different debate for British nationals and don't affect the average British person who is seeking to live in Spain.

I hope you're settling in and enjoying life here in Spain.

Kind regards, Steve

I am in somewhat a similar situation for my partner who will be joining me on a property investment visa..  She will be here shortly.  

I have also researched the Lay 14/2013 requirements.  There is no requirement to follow the 30 day rule to apply for the TIE.  However, you can apply yourself

I. Request an appointment online by clicking here!

• Under “Provincia Seleccionada“, select “;Alicante“
• In the next drop-down, select “Policia–Toma de Huellas (Expedición de Tarjeta)…“
• Click “Aceptar” (it will bring you to the next page)
• Download and fill out the EX-17 form
• Download and fill out Application form when the TIE to be issued is associated with Law 14/2013
  
• Scroll down the page and click on “Entrar” (it will bring you to the next page)
• Fill out the required information (passport number, your full name & nationality) and click on “Aceptar“
• Make your appointment (“Solicitar Cita“) and follow the instructions

II. Download and fill out the application fee form:

• Before going to your appointment, you will need to pay the 012 tax fee (modelo 790) in the amount of 15,76 Euros (June 2020). Open the payment document here and fill out the form with your personal data. Click the section labelled “TIE que documenta la primera concesión de la autorización de residencia temporal, de estancia o para trabajadores transfronterizos“. Select to pay in cash (“en efectivo“) as payment option and leave the IBAN data blank. Last but not least, press “submit”, a PDF will be automatically generated that you will need to print. Go to the nearest bank with the printed pages and pay the fee in cash.

III. Check & prepare your documents before going to your appointment:

• Proof of appointment & application forms
• Passport (original and copy)
• Recent, passport sized pictures
• Padron. 
• Receipt of payment made at the bank