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Cycle paths

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:08am
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Does anyone know a site or app that shows cycle paths (not routes) that exist in the surrounding areas of Torrevieja?

I repeat cycle paths and not routes.

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:51am

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:51am

Hi Brian,

Could you explain the difference between cycle "paths" and "routes" please?  I don't think you're likely to receive a response that's helpful to you without explaining your own definition of each.

Kind regards, 

Kim

brianbriggs

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:00pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:00pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:51am:

Hi Brian,

Could you explain the difference between cycle "paths" and "routes" please?  I don't think you're likely to receive a response that's helpful to you without explaining your own definition of each.

Kind regards, 

Kim

Don't worry about it, Kim. If you don't know the difference you are unlikely to be able to help. 

Villas

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:16pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:16pm

brianbriggs wrote on Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:00pm:

Don't worry about it, Kim. If you don't know the difference you are unlikely to be able to help. 

I too am unsure. Please explain the differences, Bridle-paths, walking routes, designated to cycles (motorcycles incl.) Etc. V

George55

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:31pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:31pm

I am assuming by cycle path you mean a track/path which is distinct and separated from the road.

As an example, if you were to look on the CV905 road from Quesada to Torrevieja, there is a cycle path (also used by pedestrians) which runs alongside the road but is separated by a clear gap of vegetation/drainage ditch of varying width but probably at least a couple of metres.

This is very different than say for example the CV91 from near Rojales to Guardamar where cyclists would be on the road itself (even if there is maybe a c3ft gap from the white line on the side of the road to the end of the tarmac). Note - depending on the bike, it is possible to cycle this element on the paths (on both side of the river) by the Rio Segura (possible to do this pretty much from Murcia city if you wanted) but they are more compacted dirt rather than tarmac.

I'm not aware of any "catch all" place for cycle paths - I've largely found routes I'm comfortable with by exploring rather than requiring cycle paths - especially during winter alot of the roads are so quiet that you may have them to yourself. Using the above example of the CV91, I'm fairly sure sometimes when I've done that stretch I've neither seen an oncoming car or been overtaken by one!

I often start my routes by joining the canal service road between Los Dolses and La Rioja commercial centre. You can head one way along this through to Vistabella or head the other way down a fair bit into Murcia.

One route I take is to follow the canal path down to El Mirador where you can then join the signposted Eurovelo 8 route which while a mix of on-road and off-road paths works out as about 100miles (if you follow it through Sucina to Murcia to Orihuela to Guardamar and back down to Villamartin (note the signage stops when you come back into Valencia but the route is pretty straightforward after that).

I'd find restricting myself just to cycle paths or vias verdes would limit the opportunity to get out and about and fully explore the area. (There may be some apps that show the vias verdes but I've not looked for them but Google might be your friend in this).

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Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:34pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:34pm

brianbriggs wrote on Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:00pm:

Don't worry about it, Kim. If you don't know the difference you are unlikely to be able to help. 

Hi Brian,

I would describe a cycle "route" in Spain as the long-distance EuroVelo and Vias Verdes routes.  I would define cycle "paths" as shorter routes designated, or not, through nature trails and parks, through the campo, along river banks, etc.  I use the Strava app (there are many others) for walking and cycling which, you may be aware, offers designated routes if you want to follow them.  But  as I said, it's YOUR definition that is more likely to elicit the response you're looking for - assuming your pompous reply to my suggestion doesn't deter other members from posting.

Regards,

Kim

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:49pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:49pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:34pm:

Hi Brian,

I would describe a cycle "route" in Spain as the long-distance EuroVelo and Vias Verdes routes.  I would define cycle "paths" as shorter routes designated, or not, through nature trails and parks, through the campo, along river banks, etc.  I use the Strava app (there are many others) f...

...or walking and cycling which, you may be aware, offers designated routes if you want to follow them.  But  as I said, it's YOUR definition that is more likely to elicit the response you're looking for - assuming your pompous reply to my suggestion doesn't deter other members from posting.

Regards,

Kim

Hello Kimmy. Don't waste your time on this fool, he has come with too many insulting or idiotic replies to people who have tried to help him.    

Regards Kenneth. 

brianbriggs

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:49am

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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:49am

George55 wrote on Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:31pm:

I am assuming by cycle path you mean a track/path which is distinct and separated from the road.

As an example, if you were to look on the CV905 road from Quesada to Torrevieja, there is a cycle path (also used by pedestrians) which runs alongside the road but is separated by a clear gap of vegetation/drainage ditch of varying width but probably at least a couple of metres.
...

...

This is very different than say for example the CV91 from near Rojales to Guardamar where cyclists would be on the road itself (even if there is maybe a c3ft gap from the white line on the side of the road to the end of the tarmac). Note - depending on the bike, it is possible to cycle this element on the paths (on both side of the river) by the Rio Segura (possible to do this pretty much from Murcia city if you wanted) but they are more compacted dirt rather than tarmac.

I'm not aware of any "catch all" place for cycle paths - I've largely found routes I'm comfortable with by exploring rather than requiring cycle paths - especially during winter alot of the roads are so quiet that you may have them to yourself. Using the above example of the CV91, I'm fairly sure sometimes when I've done that stretch I've neither seen an oncoming car or been overtaken by one!

I often start my routes by joining the canal service road between Los Dolses and La Rioja commercial centre. You can head one way along this through to Vistabella or head the other way down a fair bit into Murcia.

One route I take is to follow the canal path down to El Mirador where you can then join the signposted Eurovelo 8 route which while a mix of on-road and off-road paths works out as about 100miles (if you follow it through Sucina to Murcia to Orihuela to Guardamar and back down to Villamartin (note the signage stops when you come back into Valencia but the route is pretty straightforward after that).

I'd find restricting myself just to cycle paths or vias verdes would limit the opportunity to get out and about and fully explore the area. (There may be some apps that show the vias verdes but I've not looked for them but Google might be your friend in this).

This is perfect thanks! I'm on a racer so hopefully it will be ok. Any more like this would be appreciated!

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Los+Dolses,+03189,+Alicante/Murcia/@38.0066083,-1.1066406,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0xd63062aebc77637:0x7be050032686d4b2!2m2!1d-0.7522086!2d37.9336195!1m5!1m1!1s0xd6381f8d5928c7f:0xd627129b38c4ab9a!2m2!1d-1.1306544!2d37.9922399!3e1?entry=ttu

brianbriggs

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:08am

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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:08am

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:34pm:

Hi Brian,

I would describe a cycle "route" in Spain as the long-distance EuroVelo and Vias Verdes routes.  I would define cycle "paths" as shorter routes designated, or not, through nature trails and parks, through the campo, along river banks, etc.  I use the Strava app (there are many others) f...

...or walking and cycling which, you may be aware, offers designated routes if you want to follow them.  But  as I said, it's YOUR definition that is more likely to elicit the response you're looking for - assuming your pompous reply to my suggestion doesn't deter other members from posting.

Regards,

Kim

I just want cycle paths away from cars. I've been along the via verde to Torrevieja. Are there any other similar/better routes?

brianbriggs

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:09am

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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:09am

Kenneth1 wrote on Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:49pm:

Hello Kimmy. Don't waste your time on this fool, he has come with too many insulting or idiotic replies to people who have tried to help him.    

Regards Kenneth. 

How rude.

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