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Cheryl

Posted: Sun May 1, 2022 4:21pm

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Posted: Sun May 1, 2022 4:21pm

Vanessa47 wrote on Sun May 1, 2022 4:07pm:

No we were only told the cost yesterday and given 7 days to decide on the €900 repair or the €1400 repair

We have not been offered to do ourselves it’s not a matter that we have been informed to get the job done and we have neglected to do so

The president has employed his own builders to view all the 54 properties which most like mine have one to two hairline cracks of a meter wide told us we have to use his builders

Whilst the rules are there to keep the community looking good which I hasten to add our community is one of the nicest around and the cracks are hardly noticeable, and again I say we have not been. Notified in the past tobdo these works 

Then I can only read it that he is acting outside of his own rules. Would it be worth having a conversation with him and pointing this out to him as he seems to keep referring to rules which he appears to be ignoring!
Are you able to speak to neighbours to get some backing and then do as TP20 and DEP003 have suggested.
I wish you luck and it would be great if you could update us with the outcome as it could help others in the future.

Vanessa47

Posted: Sun May 1, 2022 4:41pm

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Posted: Sun May 1, 2022 4:41pm

Cheryl wrote on Sun May 1, 2022 4:21pm:

Then I can only read it that he is acting outside of his own rules. Would it be worth having a conversation with him and pointing this out to him as he seems to keep referring to rules which he appears to be ignoring!
Are you able to speak to neighbours to get some backing and then do as TP20 ...

...and DEP003 have suggested.
I wish you luck and it would be great if you could update us with the outcome as it could help others in the future.

Yes we are talking to quite a few other owners and we have all written to the president requesting we get two more quotes and a reasonable time scale to do works we are awaiting his response 

I will keep you updated thank you for advise

Pensionista

Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 8:37am

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Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 8:37am

If this was me I would simply say that this is unreasonable and just get the work done. If the president was unhappy about this he/she would have to take out a denuncia, but this alone means very little. A court case could ensue, but it could take years and cost the community a packet. in the meantime, vote this person out as president at the next AGM

Vanessa47

Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 11:50am

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Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 11:50am

Pensionista wrote on Mon May 2, 2022 8:37am:

If this was me I would simply say that this is unreasonable and just get the work done. If the president was unhappy about this he/she would have to take out a denuncia, but this alone means very little. A court case could ensue, but it could take years and cost the community a packet. in the mea...

...ntime, vote this person out as president at the next AGM

Thank you 

Last night our president resigned I believe he had many complaints 

Any ideas what happens now

Cheers

Cheryl

Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:02pm

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Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:02pm

Vanessa47 wrote on Mon May 2, 2022 11:50am:

Thank you 

Last night our president resigned I believe he had many complaints 

Any ideas what happens now

Cheers

Thanks for letting us know and I would go ahead and get the repairs done.
Now the community will have to find another President which from everything I have read can be a thankless task.

https://www.welex.es/position-president-community-owners-spain/ 

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Pensionista

Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:20pm

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Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:20pm

Vanessa47 wrote on Mon May 2, 2022 11:50am:

Thank you 

Last night our president resigned I believe he had many complaints 

Any ideas what happens now

Cheers

Get in touch with your administrator and ask them to call an EGM to vote in a new president. At the meeting, revoke the stupid 6a rule that has caused all the problems.

Vanessa47

Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:34pm

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Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:34pm

Cheryl wrote on Mon May 2, 2022 12:02pm:

Thanks for letting us know and I would go ahead and get the repairs done.
Now the community will have to find another President which from everything I have read can be a thankless task.

https://www.welex.es/position-president-community-owners-spain/ 

Yes that can be very true

But I question and perhaps someone can tell me what does the management company (we have community solutions) what are their responsibilities as we pay them quarterly 

I thought we pay then to upkeep the community areas ie street lights and pool and any extra works they get quotes and builders

So why does the president have to do that,

prior to the latest president we had a president who lived full time in Spain she would pass on our concerns and our requests to do a project we needed permission for to the management company to get it agreed. ( ie seven years ago we requested to put a jacuzzi on our property the plans went to community solutions, not to the president to decide yes or no

Our president then just chaired the agm and passed in any concerns or ideas at the meeting to be voted on 

So would I be correct the majority of work should be our management company not our president they collect the fees not the president 

Vanessa47

Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:39pm

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Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 12:39pm

Pensionista wrote on Mon May 2, 2022 12:20pm:

Get in touch with your administrator and ask them to call an EGM to vote in a new president. At the meeting, revoke the stupid 6a rule that has caused all the problems.

The president resigned last night I believe he had many complaints about these latest repairs forbowners i think it was the last straw in a long line of demands the president has been making of the past year 

I thought that the management company who we pay fees to were the ones who should be overlooking community repairs and workmen etc and president ms there to field problems or points of view and to chair the agm not to do the budgeting and making descions on repairs

What is your understanding of this 

Would like to hear views on this cheers   

Pensionista

Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 1:42pm

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Posted: Mon May 2, 2022 1:42pm

Vanessa47 wrote on Mon May 2, 2022 12:39pm:

The president resigned last night I believe he had many complaints about these latest repairs forbowners i think it was the last straw in a long line of demands the president has been making of the past year 

I thought that the management company who we pay fees to were the ones who should be overlooking community repairs and workmen etc and president ms there to field problems or points of view and to chair the agm not to do the budgeting and making descions on repairs...

...

What is your understanding of this 

Would like to hear views on this cheers   

By management company, I think you mean Administrators. All communities have them.they collect yr fees but they can’t make decisions unless the community directs them, hence the president’s role is to represent and reflect the wishes of the majority of owners.

Gemily1

Posted: Wed May 4, 2022 2:24pm

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Posted: Wed May 4, 2022 2:24pm

Vanessa47 wrote on Mon May 2, 2022 12:39pm:

The president resigned last night I believe he had many complaints about these latest repairs forbowners i think it was the last straw in a long line of demands the president has been making of the past year 

I thought that the management company who we pay fees to were the ones who should be overlooking community repairs and workmen etc and president ms there to field problems or points of view and to chair the agm not to do the budgeting and making descions on repairs...

...

What is your understanding of this 

Would like to hear views on this cheers   

I was President of a community for over 5 years, it is a thankful task, as I saw it the President is a figure head and a go between, between the community and the administrator any problems a member had would normally report to the President, this could be anything from members not complying with the community rules, to the pool being dirty etc,even complaining that there televisions where not working, if I could sort it out then I would.
Any problems with the aesthetics ie properties not being maintained, then the administrator would send a letter to the owners explaining what needed to be done. If major works were to be carried out on community owned property then this would be discussed at the AGM and the works voted on, unless there was an emergency then sometimes I would make a decision in the best interests of the community. The administer would then get quotes for the works and generally get the job done. 
At no time when I was President did I control any monies belonging to the community or obtain any quotes and ask people to have extortionate works done on their own property, this guy appears to have taken things a bit far and was probably having a bit of a back hander.

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