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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:24am:

"Spain, Britain and the European Union agreed on Dec. 31, 2020, hours before Britain's full exit from the bloc, that Gibraltar would remain part of EU agreements such as the Schengen Area and Spain would police the port and the airport, pending a definitive solution."

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Hi Kim,

       the reason the discussions over Gibraltar have been dragging on for so long is in part because the UK do not agree to Spain policing Gibraltar port and airport. They agreed to have Frontex do this alongside local Gib border control, the difference being that Frontex report to the EU and not Spain. The Spanish of course wanted Spanish border officers to do the checks, Gibraltar would never agree to that hence the continued discussions to find a solution.

https://www.etias.info/gibraltar-joins-schengen-after-brexit/

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:42pm

As I said,we all know how this ends.

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:01pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:01pm

aitchc1401 wrote on Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37pm:

Hi Kim,

       the reason the discussions over Gibraltar have been dragging on for so long is in part because the UK do not agree to Spain policing Gibraltar port and airport. They agreed to have Frontex do this alongside local Gib border control, the difference being that Frontex rep...

...ort to the EU and not Spain. The Spanish of course wanted Spanish border officers to do the checks, Gibraltar would never agree to that hence the continued discussions to find a solution.

https://www.etias.info/gibraltar-joins-schengen-after-brexit/

Regards,

Aitch.

No idea why that's directed at me - it's the same link that I'd previously posted at the top of the page.

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:06pm

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Hi PedroB, sadly having read the replies to your original post which was in all honesty just about the possible changes that may or may not be adopted in the future, who knows?. It has unfortunately highlighted some of the anti British, Brits, that still exist on the forum and permanently reside in Spain.  Only using your post to put across their opinions. To be honest most of them likely couldn’t  meet the existing financial  requirements to move to and reside in Spain right now. But we’re lucky enough to do so when it was so cheap to do so compared to what it would cost at present. Some have managed to use Google and state facts, some just want to moan about the UK and or Brexit. What difference would it make to any them personally if someone could stay for 180 days straight, none at all !

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:49pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:49pm

Hew wrote on Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:06pm:

Hi PedroB, sadly having read the replies to your original post which was in all honesty just about the possible changes that may or may not be adopted in the future, who knows?. It has unfortunately highlighted some of the anti British, Brits, that still exist on the forum and permanently reside ...

...in Spain.  Only using your post to put across their opinions. To be honest most of them likely couldn’t  meet the existing financial  requirements to move to and reside in Spain right now. But we’re lucky enough to do so when it was so cheap to do so compared to what it would cost at present. Some have managed to use Google and state facts, some just want to moan about the UK and or Brexit. What difference would it make to any them personally if someone could stay for 180 days straight, none at all !

Thank you Hew, yes, exactly 180/365  no difference.   

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:07pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:07pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:01pm:

No idea why that's directed at me - it's the same link that I'd previously posted at the top of the page.

HI Kim,

       my post was just clarifying that the UK government did not agree to Spanish policing the port/Airport in Gibraltar as you stated, they agreed to Frontex policing the border. Apologies if that was not clear.

 If you read the link you posted it is quite clear in the text. This has been the main reason why the discussions on Gibraltar have dragged on for so long.

Aitch.

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:01am

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:01am

Hi Bibba,

You seem to think that I'm disagreeing with you - I'm not.  The quote says, "pending a definitive solution" - and that's the problem, they still haven't reached one.  The deal reached between negotiators, just hours before the UK's departure from the EU, allowed Gibraltar to benefit from the rules of the Schengen zone, "pending a definitive solution".  Personally, I think the chances of the UK agreeing to open the land border between Spain and Gibraltar are as problematic as agreeing to Gibraltar joining Schengen, but I sincerely hope that an agreement can be reached - the current situation is untenable for the 15,000 cross-border workers who are employed in Gibraltar, but also for Gibraltar itself, which is entirely dependent on the supply of imports for its 34,000 residents.  The "definitive solution" is crucial to Gibraltar, to avoid delays in cross-border trade of goods caused by new customs procedures.

Kind regards, 

Kim 

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