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Mary1961

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:19am

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:19am

tony1956 wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 9:21am:

Hi leckyles, thanks for your reply regarding the 14 day quarantine but the UK government announced this yesterday live on TV starting on 1st June, and if the Spanish did the same it's possible going to kill off the holiday season, thanks you for your response take care be safe Tony 

I don't think they did announce it. It was the airlines stating a quarantine period was due to be announced. And also the tabloids but I did not pick up from the government that this was in place tet

Mary1961

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:19am

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:19am

tony1956 wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 9:21am:

Hi leckyles, thanks for your reply regarding the 14 day quarantine but the UK government announced this yesterday live on TV starting on 1st June, and if the Spanish did the same it's possible going to kill off the holiday season, thanks you for your response take care be safe Tony 

I don't think they did announce it. It was the airlines stating a quarantine period was due to be announced. And also the tabloids but I did not pick up from the government that this was in place tet

Despegue

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:28am

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:28am

Be careful about fake news.

I am working as an Airline Captain for a major European airline ( B747), and in management, and as such, am privileged to a bit more info than being distributed to the media.

Yes, there is an effort underway by the EU to open the borders for INTRA SCHENGEN flights by July, but nothing is in writing yet, and extra Schengen ( Including UK) will still be facing various restrictions.

However, either the whole Schengen zone will be opened-up or nothing. NOT country per country on bilateral basis. In reality, Germany does NOT have a much better situation than Belgium or the Netherlands for example. They have a different death count system, creating a false image of being more successful. The media might be fooled by that, but the EU and virologists are aware of that. Once again, there has not been any official news and beware of fake news ( like the “news” that Spain will keep its borders completely closed till october).

Me too, I am hoping for an opening-up of ALC in June, and I think that there is a possibility as Greece, Italy, Turkey are all gearing-up to take as many tourists from Spain as possible if Spain does not welcome International tourism this summer. ( dog-eats-dog is very much the motto in tourism, let that be clear to all). however, 

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:41am

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:41am

Despegue wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 11:28am:

Be careful about fake news.

I am working as an Airline Captain for a major European airline ( B747), and in management, and as such, am privileged to a bit more info than being distributed to the media.

Yes, there is an effort underway by the EU to open the borders for INTRA SCHENGEN flights by July, but nothing is in writing yet, and extra Schengen ( Including UK) will still be facing various restrictions.

However, either the whole Schengen zone will be opened-up or nothing. NOT country per country on bilateral basis. In reality, Germany does NOT have a much better situation than Belgium or the Netherlands for example. They have a different death count system, creating a false image of being more successful. The media might be fooled by that, but the EU and virologists are aware of that. Once again, there has not been any official news and beware of fake news ( like the “news” that Spain will keep its borders completely closed till october).

Me too, I am hoping for an opening-up of ALC in June, and I think that there is a possibility as Greece, Italy, Turkey are all gearing-up to take as many tourists from Spain as possible if Spain does not welcome International tourism this summer. ( dog-eats-dog is very much the motto in tourism, let that be clear to all). however, 

Thanks for this, very interesting, however, I am surprised by your assertion that any opening for flights will be EU wide or nothing. Everybody is doing their own thing over dealing with the virus, reporting the virus, closing airports/not closing airports, different paths and timetables to come out of the virus shutdown, giving government aid to their airlines etc, etc, etc, why would this be any different? I'm not wanting to be controversial but very interested in your opinion.

Despegue

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:07pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:07pm

Simply because opening up on a bilateral basis will void the complete Schengen idea and what it stands for, and as nearly all Schengen countries are relatively in the same position, bilateral opening will only create discrimination feelings. Note that States might still pursue bilateral opening, but the EU is currently trying to get the opening of intra schengen borders done in a colaberated and coordinated manner.

Once again, Germany is NOT better off than the Benelux or Scandinavia. Opening up the borders for only Germans would create a huge can of worms. That I can guarantee.

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Dlrsantapola

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:08pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:08pm

Despegue wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 11:28am:

Be careful about fake news.

I am working as an Airline Captain for a major European airline ( B747), and in management, and as such, am privileged to a bit more info than being distributed to the media.

Yes, there is an effort underway by the EU to open the borders for INTRA SCHENGEN flights by July, but nothing is in writing yet, and extra Schengen ( Including UK) will still be facing various restrictions.

However, either the whole Schengen zone will be opened-up or nothing. NOT country per country on bilateral basis. In reality, Germany does NOT have a much better situation than Belgium or the Netherlands for example. They have a different death count system, creating a false image of being more successful. The media might be fooled by that, but the EU and virologists are aware of that. Once again, there has not been any official news and beware of fake news ( like the “news” that Spain will keep its borders completely closed till october).

Me too, I am hoping for an opening-up of ALC in June, and I think that there is a possibility as Greece, Italy, Turkey are all gearing-up to take as many tourists from Spain as possible if Spain does not welcome International tourism this summer. ( dog-eats-dog is very much the motto in tourism, let that be clear to all). however, 

A very interesting and well written post from someone with real information, as opposed to people's guesses and what they think will happen and probably believe everything that is written in the daily star ! Thanks for the info, please keep us updated 

Dave 

DonnaRose

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:18pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:18pm

Despegue wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 11:28am:

Be careful about fake news.

I am working as an Airline Captain for a major European airline ( B747), and in management, and as such, am privileged to a bit more info than being distributed to the media.

Yes, there is an effort underway by the EU to open the borders for INTRA SCHENGEN flights by July, but nothing is in writing yet, and extra Schengen ( Including UK) will still be facing various restrictions.

However, either the whole Schengen zone will be opened-up or nothing. NOT country per country on bilateral basis. In reality, Germany does NOT have a much better situation than Belgium or the Netherlands for example. They have a different death count system, creating a false image of being more successful. The media might be fooled by that, but the EU and virologists are aware of that. Once again, there has not been any official news and beware of fake news ( like the “news” that Spain will keep its borders completely closed till october).

Me too, I am hoping for an opening-up of ALC in June, and I think that there is a possibility as Greece, Italy, Turkey are all gearing-up to take as many tourists from Spain as possible if Spain does not welcome International tourism this summer. ( dog-eats-dog is very much the motto in tourism, let that be clear to all). however, 

Thank you for this. It is good to have this information. We are in the middle of buying a property in Spain and it should be finalised in the next few weeks however at the moment we are not allowed in Spain so any future information is useful. Thank you 

DonnaRose

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:22pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:22pm

Dlrsantapola wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 12:08pm:

A very interesting and well written post from someone with real information, as opposed to people's guesses and what they think will happen and probably believe everything that is written in the daily star ! Thanks for the info, please keep us updated 

Dave 

Please add any further information on here as I would like to keep up to date with changes. Thank you so much. 

Despegue

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 4:03pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 4:03pm

Update, but not regarding Spain:

Turkey will open its borders for International tourists end of May, with International tourist flights starting beginning of June .

Source: Minister of Tourism, Mehmet Ersoy.

Scruffington

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:11pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:11pm

tony1956 wrote on Sat May 9, 2020 7:42pm:

Thanks for your reply, this is the problem got a long-term rental to look at but having only seen photos its actually what we are looking for, but do we take a chance, don't want to let the lady down, and take it unseen for a year, but l may have read to much into the pm announcement and don't kn...

...ow what the Spanish are going to do many thanks Tony 

Hi

We have rented a lovely villa near villena for a year from August without visiting, just had lots of photos and we found it on here!! Lovely people who own it so we were happy to complete and sign.

Good luck 

Ann

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