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Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:13pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:13pm

Cjohnso1 wrote on Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:44pm:

Hi Kim,

The rejection was that we did not prove we were resident in Spain prior to 31 December 2020.

We arrived 16 August 2020, had ferry tickets one way, had bank statements , utility bills , Amazon and IKEA delivery notifications, even SIP Cards etc etc. The one chink in our armour was we did not sign on the Padron until 2021 !!!! Mea culpa !

This was our second attempt, rejected for the same reasoning as the first. The appeal was on time and the Governments 3 month resolution was up yesterday. Which would have been within our 90 day visa. However due to vacations in August they have not completed their investigations

Regards cjohnso1

I do wonder how people were supposed to get Padrons during a pandemic, during a period when they had to make appointments at their Town Halls, instead of just walking in, and the appointments were like gold dust.  I hope your appeal is successful second time around.

Best wishes,

Kim

Cjohnso1

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:32pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:32pm

Hi Kim,

Thanks for your advice. But where is it written ?

Regards

Cjohnso1

Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:17pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:17pm

Hi Cjohnso1,

I can find it stated explictly on the websites of various lawyers. although I prefer to offer official sites.  This guide on La Moncloa states that you can remain in Spain while your residency application is in process - while it doesn't specifically mention the inclusion of appeals, they are still part of the application process (see page 11):

https://www.inclusion.gob.es/ficheros/brexit/guia_brexit_2020_en.pdf

 Also, note the statement at the top of page 12:

"How long will it take to get the residence document? 

"The deadline for deciding on your concession is three months. And after that, you must request its dispatch within one month of notification."

You are still waiting for a response - I believe the statement above implies that it's acceptable for you to remain in country while the process is ongoing.

On page 15:

"What happens if an application is rejected? 

"What will be the deadlines for filing an appeal? If your application is rejected, you may file a complaint through administrative channels. The decision itself will tell you the formalities relating to the appeal, deadlines, and to whom you must submit it.  After this analysis in administrative proceedings, you will be able to go to court."

I believe the fact that, even after failed appeals, you can then go to court implies, again, that you can remain in country until you have exhausted the system.

As I said, I prefer official documents from the Spanish government, but in the absence of anything more definitive than what I've quoted above from La Moncloa, please see the second bullet under the heading "Reasons to Appeal" in the following article:

https://costaluzlawyers.es/blog/your-guide-to-what-to-do-if-your-application-for-residence-in-spain-is-rejected/

"You can continue to live in Spain until a decision is made on your appeal. And most importantly, you cannot be deported while the process is taking place."

I hope this gives you some peace of mind.

Kind regards,

Kim

Cjohnso1

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57am

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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57am

Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:17pm:

Hi Cjohnso1,

I can find it stated explictly on the websites of various lawyers. although I prefer to offer official sites.  This guide on La Moncloa states that you can remain in Spain while your residency application is in process - while it doesn't specifically mention the inclusion of appeals, they ar...

...e still part of the application process (see page 11):

https://www.inclusion.gob.es/ficheros/brexit/guia_brexit_2020_en.pdf

 Also, note the statement at the top of page 12:

"How long will it take to get the residence document? 

"The deadline for deciding on your concession is three months. And after that, you must request its dispatch within one month of notification."

You are still waiting for a response - I believe the statement above implies that it's acceptable for you to remain in country while the process is ongoing.

On page 15:

"What happens if an application is rejected? 

"What will be the deadlines for filing an appeal? If your application is rejected, you may file a complaint through administrative channels. The decision itself will tell you the formalities relating to the appeal, deadlines, and to whom you must submit it.  After this analysis in administrative proceedings, you will be able to go to court."

I believe the fact that, even after failed appeals, you can then go to court implies, again, that you can remain in country until you have exhausted the system.

As I said, I prefer official documents from the Spanish government, but in the absence of anything more definitive than what I've quoted above from La Moncloa, please see the second bullet under the heading "Reasons to Appeal" in the following article:

https://costaluzlawyers.es/blog/your-guide-to-what-to-do-if-your-application-for-residence-in-spain-is-rejected/

"You can continue to live in Spain until a decision is made on your appeal. And most importantly, you cannot be deported while the process is taking place."

I hope this gives you some peace of mind.

Kind regards,

Kim

Hi Kim,

Thanks for your perseverance. It would seem we are ok to stay. I suppose the proof of the pudding will be when leave and return !

Thanks again

Kimmy11

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17am

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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17am

Cjohnso1 wrote on Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57am:

Hi Kim,

Thanks for your perseverance. It would seem we are ok to stay. I suppose the proof of the pudding will be when leave and return !

Thanks again

Personally, I wouldn't leave Spain while the Appeals process is ongoing.  In the unfortunate circumstance that you are ultimately rejected, I would keep all the paperwork you have with regard to your application process.  I don't know whether Spanish or Schengen border control systems are intelligent enough to capture your right to exceed 90 days in country while your residency application is in progress.

Kind regards, 

Kim

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