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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:06pm
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Bryher Island

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Hi ... I am a first time cash buyer looking for a property in Moraira . Not having any experience of overseas property I am looking for any practical useful advice and if it is necessary for me to engage a local English speaking Moraira lawyer to help me secure Spanish legal ownership . I am anticipating to having to appoint a UK based lawyer but i`m not sure if it would be necessary to appoint both . I will be in Moraira for an initial few days from the 12th to the 17th April and would like to establish any such legal connections during this visit . 

Any practical help with this new exciting venture I would vey much appreciate . 

Many thanks 

Bryher Island      

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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:28pm

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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:43pm

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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:43pm

Hi Bryher Island and welcome to the forum,

You don't say whether the property you're planning to buy is for holidays or permanent living, so I'll restrict my response to the buying process.  

The two main property portals for advertising Spanish properties are:

https://www.kyero.com/

https://www.idealista.com/

I'd recommend doing as much research as possible online before your planned trip to Spain in April, with a view to arranging property visits via the listing estate agent before you arrive.  It's worth noting that the same property may be listed with multiple agents and sometimes at different selling prices - multiple listings are common in Spain and the agents split the sales commission, which is paid by the vendor, not the buyer.  Be wary of any agent that suggests you have to pay this.  Sometimes the properties have already been sold, but agents don't always remove the listings, so double-check the selling price and availability of each when you ask for a viewing.

You will need a lawyer ("abogado") in Spain, not in the UK.  Always use an independent lawyer, not one working for the selling agent - you're paying a lawyer to work for you, not the selling agent and their vendor!

When you find a property that you want to buy and your offer has been accepted, the selling agent may ask you for a "reservation deposit", usually around €3,000 - this has no basis in Spanish conveyancing law, but it doesn't stop them asking for it!  They may tell you that it's refundable, but there are many stories of unsuspecting buyers who did not proceed with their purchase and were then unable to get this so-called "reservation deposit" returned to them.  If a vendor insists on this payment, tell them that you'll pay it to your lawyer - NOT the estate agent.

Your appointed lawyer will draft a purchase contract and check for any anomalies, such as outstanding debts on the property which, unlike the UK, will become your responsibility once you own the property; your lawyer should ensure that these are resolved by the vendor prior to completion.  As part of their service, they should also arrange for all utility contracts (typically, electricity and water, but also let them know if the property has a piped gas supply) are transferred from the vendor to yourself, but double-check that they will do this.  Once the purchase contract is signed, you will have to pay a legally-binding deposit of 10% of the purchase price, with the balance of the funds transferred in time for the completion meeting at the notary.  Once the 10% deposit has been paid, if you (the buyer) pulls out, you lose your deposit, and if the vendor retracts, they must return double the deposit amount to you. 

It's still common practice in Spain to obtain a Banker's Draft to pay the balance of your purchase funds at the notary.  However, the banks charge a % fee based on the value of the Draft and they are expensive, so it's worth checking that the lawyer you plan to appoint has the facility for you to transfer the purchase balance to their Client Account, so that it can be paid electronically direct to the notary on the day.

For budget purposes, you should add around 14% of the purchase price to cover 10% ITP (property transfer tax), plus legal costs, i.e. lawyer, notary and land registry.  For example, if you're paying €200,000 for the property, you will need an additional €28,000 to cover the ITP and legal costs.

You'll need property insurance which, in Spain, is usually provided by a "Home" policy, combining buildings and contents cover - ask on here for recommendations in your area.

You'll also need a Spanish Will to cover your assets in Spain, but written under the law of England and Wales - this will ensure that succession rights are in line with the UK because, under Spanish law, children are prioritised over a spouse.  You could ask your Spanish lawyer to arrange this, but unless your affairs are complex, it would be cheaper to go direct to a notary.  Don't try and include this in your UK Will, as it will make matter much more complicated and expensive for your estate/inheritors when the time comes.

As you can see, it's expensive to buy and sell property in Spain, so it's best to make sure you get it right first time.  I'm sure you'll have other questions as matters proceed and there are no silly questions, so don't hesitate to ask on here as they arise - forewarned is forearmed.  Enjoy!  :o)

Kind regards,

Kim

Bryher Island

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:19am

Bryher Island

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:19am

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:43pm:

Hi Bryher Island and welcome to the forum,

You don't say whether the property you're planning to buy is for holidays or permanent living, so I'll restrict my response to the buying process.  

The two main property portals for advertising Spanish properties are:

https://www.kyero.com/

https://www.idealista.com/

I'd recommend doing as much research as possible online before your planned trip to Spain in April, with a view to arranging property visits via the listing estate agent before you arrive.  It's worth noting that the same property may be listed with multiple agents and sometimes at different selling prices - multiple listings are common in Spain and the agents split the sales commission, which is paid by the vendor, not the buyer.  Be wary of any agent that suggests you have to pay this.  Sometimes the properties have already been sold, but agents don't always remove the listings, so double-check the selling price and availability of each when you ask for a viewing.

You will need a lawyer ("abogado") in Spain, not in the UK.  Always use an independent lawyer, not one working for the selling agent - you're paying a lawyer to work for you, not the selling agent and their vendor!

When you find a property that you want to buy and your offer has been accepted, the selling agent may ask you for a "reservation deposit", usually around €3,000 - this has no basis in Spanish conveyancing law, but it doesn't stop them asking for it!  They may tell you that it's refundable, but there are many stories of unsuspecting buyers who did not proceed with their purchase and were then unable to get this so-called "reservation deposit" returned to them.  If a vendor insists on this payment, tell them that you'll pay it to your lawyer - NOT the estate agent.

Your appointed lawyer will draft a purchase contract and check for any anomalies, such as outstanding debts on the property which, unlike the UK, will become your responsibility once you own the property; your lawyer should ensure that these are resolved by the vendor prior to completion.  As part of their service, they should also arrange for all utility contracts (typically, electricity and water, but also let them know if the property has a piped gas supply) are transferred from the vendor to yourself, but double-check that they will do this.  Once the purchase contract is signed, you will have to pay a legally-binding deposit of 10% of the purchase price, with the balance of the funds transferred in time for the completion meeting at the notary.  Once the 10% deposit has been paid, if you (the buyer) pulls out, you lose your deposit, and if the vendor retracts, they must return double the deposit amount to you. 

It's still common practice in Spain to obtain a Banker's Draft to pay the balance of your purchase funds at the notary.  However, the banks charge a % fee based on the value of the Draft and they are expensive, so it's worth checking that the lawyer you plan to appoint has the facility for you to transfer the purchase balance to their Client Account, so that it can be paid electronically direct to the notary on the day.

For budget purposes, you should add around 14% of the purchase price to cover 10% ITP (property transfer tax), plus legal costs, i.e. lawyer, notary and land registry.  For example, if you're paying €200,000 for the property, you will need an additional €28,000 to cover the ITP and legal costs.

You'll need property insurance which, in Spain, is usually provided by a "Home" policy, combining buildings and contents cover - ask on here for recommendations in your area.

You'll also need a Spanish Will to cover your assets in Spain, but written under the law of England and Wales - this will ensure that succession rights are in line with the UK because, under Spanish law, children are prioritised over a spouse.  You could ask your Spanish lawyer to arrange this, but unless your affairs are complex, it would be cheaper to go direct to a notary.  Don't try and include this in your UK Will, as it will make matter much more complicated and expensive for your estate/inheritors when the time comes.

As you can see, it's expensive to buy and sell property in Spain, so it's best to make sure you get it right first time.  I'm sure you'll have other questions as matters proceed and there are no silly questions, so don't hesitate to ask on here as they arise - forewarned is forearmed.  Enjoy!  :o)

Kind regards,

Kim

Hi Kim  

Many thanks for your reply and advice . 

If all goes well this property will start off as kind of a holiday /family / friends idea but eventually lead onto to be a 12 month home . 

I have a base in Moraira and a very good contact but i still need pockets of advice seeing as i have a long way to go . 

Please don`t be surprised if i do make contact again . 

All the best Robin . 

  

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:51am

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:51am

Hi Robin,

If full-time residency in Spain is a key factor in your decision-making to buy a property, and you hold a UK passport (rather than EU), I'd recommend you check that you can meet the requirements of the appropriate Spanish visa option, as the financial and private healthcare (until you become eligible for the S1) are much more onerous post-Brexit:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/seul/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/Consular/Visados-nacionales-Informacion-general.aspx

Kind regards,

Kim

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Bryher Island

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:05am

Bryher Island

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:05am

Hi Kim

One of the key questions on my list of things to do . 

Thanks very much  

Robin

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:20am

Hi, I was in a similar position to you several years ago and I am now happily settled in Moraira. I purchased my property through Sally and Anthony at Spanish Property sales and they connected me with a good lawyer in Moraira, Romeu, and have continued to support me with my application for NIE, setting up direct debits and connecting me with services to manage my house.

If you are still looking for a property, I am happy to forward their details. They can access any property for sale in the area and will search for something on your behalf based on your wish list. 

I wish you well with your search and hope that this helps. 

Helen

Bryher Island

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:42am

Bryher Island

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:42am

Thanks  Helen 

All very much appreciated . 

I have had quite a strong response to my posting but as you can appreciate i am fact finding for now . 

I shall formulate some sort of plan in the near future . 

Thanks again

Robin  

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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:02am

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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:02am

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:43pm:

Hi Bryher Island and welcome to the forum,

You don't say whether the property you're planning to buy is for holidays or permanent living, so I'll restrict my response to the buying process.  

The two main property portals for advertising Spanish properties are:

https://www.kyero.com/

https://www.idealista.com/

I'd recommend doing as much research as possible online before your planned trip to Spain in April, with a view to arranging property visits via the listing estate agent before you arrive.  It's worth noting that the same property may be listed with multiple agents and sometimes at different selling prices - multiple listings are common in Spain and the agents split the sales commission, which is paid by the vendor, not the buyer.  Be wary of any agent that suggests you have to pay this.  Sometimes the properties have already been sold, but agents don't always remove the listings, so double-check the selling price and availability of each when you ask for a viewing.

You will need a lawyer ("abogado") in Spain, not in the UK.  Always use an independent lawyer, not one working for the selling agent - you're paying a lawyer to work for you, not the selling agent and their vendor!

When you find a property that you want to buy and your offer has been accepted, the selling agent may ask you for a "reservation deposit", usually around €3,000 - this has no basis in Spanish conveyancing law, but it doesn't stop them asking for it!  They may tell you that it's refundable, but there are many stories of unsuspecting buyers who did not proceed with their purchase and were then unable to get this so-called "reservation deposit" returned to them.  If a vendor insists on this payment, tell them that you'll pay it to your lawyer - NOT the estate agent.

Your appointed lawyer will draft a purchase contract and check for any anomalies, such as outstanding debts on the property which, unlike the UK, will become your responsibility once you own the property; your lawyer should ensure that these are resolved by the vendor prior to completion.  As part of their service, they should also arrange for all utility contracts (typically, electricity and water, but also let them know if the property has a piped gas supply) are transferred from the vendor to yourself, but double-check that they will do this.  Once the purchase contract is signed, you will have to pay a legally-binding deposit of 10% of the purchase price, with the balance of the funds transferred in time for the completion meeting at the notary.  Once the 10% deposit has been paid, if you (the buyer) pulls out, you lose your deposit, and if the vendor retracts, they must return double the deposit amount to you. 

It's still common practice in Spain to obtain a Banker's Draft to pay the balance of your purchase funds at the notary.  However, the banks charge a % fee based on the value of the Draft and they are expensive, so it's worth checking that the lawyer you plan to appoint has the facility for you to transfer the purchase balance to their Client Account, so that it can be paid electronically direct to the notary on the day.

For budget purposes, you should add around 14% of the purchase price to cover 10% ITP (property transfer tax), plus legal costs, i.e. lawyer, notary and land registry.  For example, if you're paying €200,000 for the property, you will need an additional €28,000 to cover the ITP and legal costs.

You'll need property insurance which, in Spain, is usually provided by a "Home" policy, combining buildings and contents cover - ask on here for recommendations in your area.

You'll also need a Spanish Will to cover your assets in Spain, but written under the law of England and Wales - this will ensure that succession rights are in line with the UK because, under Spanish law, children are prioritised over a spouse.  You could ask your Spanish lawyer to arrange this, but unless your affairs are complex, it would be cheaper to go direct to a notary.  Don't try and include this in your UK Will, as it will make matter much more complicated and expensive for your estate/inheritors when the time comes.

As you can see, it's expensive to buy and sell property in Spain, so it's best to make sure you get it right first time.  I'm sure you'll have other questions as matters proceed and there are no silly questions, so don't hesitate to ask on here as they arise - forewarned is forearmed.  Enjoy!  :o)

Kind regards,

Kim

Hi, 

We bought our property here in Spain 5 years ago where we now live.  We did everything through MyLawyersInSpain who sorted out all the transfers of bills, set up bank accounts, Wills and did all the property checks all for 1% of the property price.  They are now based in Javea and we are using them again.  

We live in Moraira, have a traditional Spanish type villa with 3 beds 2 baths (no pool), but then we are 2mins drive from the beach so who needs it!!!  We are selling ours through Select Villas.  Always happy to do a viewing if your interested.

Blessings

Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:13am

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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:13am

Hi Dep003,

I'm guessing your message was meant for Robin, rather than me 🤗

Kind regards, 

Kim

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