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Carol299 wrote on Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:33am:

I was under the impression that 90/180 rule applied pre-Brexit and does to all countries, the EU just chose to turn a blind eye to it as long as they were getting their billions every year.

Hi Carol,

Although the UK never joined Schengen, as EU citizens we had Freedom of Movement, so it wasn't an issue for us.  However, we should always have been complying with Spain's residency laws, which required us, as foreigners, to register our presence here if our intention was to stay more than 90 days.  That would have meant holiday-home owners wouldn't have been able to stay longer than 90 days without applying for registration - so it was Spain's residency laws,  rather than Schengen, to which the Spanish authorities turned a blind eye.

The funny thing about the Brits who believe Schengen has been imposed on us out of spite for Brexit, is that they don't seem to know that the UK (and Ireland) could have joined Schengen, but chose to opt out in 1997; nevertheless, Spain (and the EU) has allowed us to maintain, post-Brexit, visa-free travel, unlike many Third Countries who have to apply for a visa to travel here for their holidays.  But, of course, they no longer turn a blind eye to overstayers.

Kind regards, 

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ElaineR wrote on Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:40pm:

Yes it was an article in the Express last week, fingers crossed Greece are also saying the same. As for the comment about people now moaning about it after they voted for Brexit, I don’t believe people where informed what it actually meant for people. The Spanish rely on the British pensions &a...

...mp; tourism. I have photoed a part of the expre

The Spanish economy certainly does not rely on Brit pensions,second home owners or snowbird motorhomers.There is a lot more to Spanish GDP than a few retired Brits wanting to stay longer.And again the Brits complaining the most probably voted for it,as I said most of my complaining Brit friends are 65+.Should have read the small print on the bus.

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Martyn1986 wrote on Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:52pm:

I find it funny that the British only want British people in their country with no immigrants but the complain because they can't stay as an  immigrant somewhere else for.

A Very short comment you made and put far too simply, I don’t think its quite true , the Brits want people who can provide for themselves and benefit the Country and who are not a drain on our resources, housing, NHS etc.   Just the same as Spain and most Countries  the World . Brits would not ,and would not be allowed to be, a drain on Spain. I also believe, people who are born in a Country with their own culture, no matter where, prefer to live beside people of the same culture,they then more or less know how the guy next door thinks. It’s a bit unfair to comment as you have about Brits at home ,they, Especially, the English ,,(yep, England is only one part of the U.K. not as many believe it refers to All of the U.K. lol,)   have an awful lot to put up with, They are being slowly overwhelmed , it truly must be a living Hell in some parts , they have been suffering for generations!  I can only imagine as I live in Scotland and we don’t have anything like it.  Have you had experience of what i’m talking about , do you not understand where they are coming from?  Where did Mrs Thursdays accent disappear to, I loved it 🥰😂.    

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DUI wrote on Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:42pm:

The Spanish economy certainly does not rely on Brit pensions,second home owners or snowbird motorhomers.There is a lot more to Spanish GDP than a few retired Brits wanting to stay longer.And again the Brits complaining the most probably voted for it,as I said most of my complaining Brit friends a...

...re 65+.Should have read the small print on the bus.

You cannot know who voted FOR IT.   I have had a house in Spain since 2002 and Didn’t vote for it. The Spanish Govt is the one trying to negotiate. It’s not Rocket science that that means They don’t want to lose the money the Brits bring in. Of course They Rely on it, it’s all about Money, they can’t afford to lose Any!  If you lost 12% of your income, would you be happy?   

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DUI wrote on Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:42pm:

The Spanish economy certainly does not rely on Brit pensions,second home owners or snowbird motorhomers.There is a lot more to Spanish GDP than a few retired Brits wanting to stay longer.And again the Brits complaining the most probably voted for it,as I said most of my complaining Brit friends a...

...re 65+.Should have read the small print on the bus.

How old are you ?  Your post about your friends was a bit ageist! We don’t turn Thick at 65!  Do They know, you are not Really  their friend ?

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Martyn1986 wrote on Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:53pm:

Added the missing word

 What one?

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L181SKY wrote on Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:48am:

A Very short comment you made and put far too simply, I don’t think its quite true , the Brits want people who can provide for themselves and benefit the Country and who are not a drain on our resources, housing, NHS etc.   Just the same as Spain and most Countries  the World . Brits ...

...would not ,and would not be allowed to be, a drain on Spain. I also believe, people who are born in a Country with their own culture, no matter where, prefer to live beside people of the same culture,they then more or less know how the guy next door thinks. It’s a bit unfair to comment as you have about Brits at home ,they, Especially, the English ,,(yep, England is only one part of the U.K. not as many believe it refers to All of the U.K. lol,)   have an awful lot to put up with, They are being slowly overwhelmed , it truly must be a living Hell in some parts , they have been suffering for generations!  I can only imagine as I live in Scotland and we don’t have anything like it.  Have you had experience of what i’m talking about , do you not understand where they are coming from?  Where did Mrs Thursdays accent disappear to, I loved it 🥰😂.    

Just because its simple doesn't make it untrue. How post on here recently about post Brexit 90day rules? Too many. So many British on here have said Spains just being arsey with the Brits by enforcing the rules. The people of the UK always complain about how many immigrants are in the UK and like you said can be a burden, hence why they voted to leave Europe (one main reason). Yet they complain that they can't do the same in Spain and live and work easily, weather its legally or illegally bit hypocritical. But lets face it, you can with careful planning still enjoy 6 months in Spain at always better weather than the UK so it's nowt really major 

Life would be easier if everyone could easily travel somewhere to work, live, retire or just visit if there was no restrictions, no visas required, everyone accepted the countries rules and everyone got along well with each other the world would be a better place but unfortunately that isn't the case, we can dream though. 

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L181SKY wrote on Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:48am:

A Very short comment you made and put far too simply, I don’t think its quite true , the Brits want people who can provide for themselves and benefit the Country and who are not a drain on our resources, housing, NHS etc.   Just the same as Spain and most Countries  the World . Brits ...

...would not ,and would not be allowed to be, a drain on Spain. I also believe, people who are born in a Country with their own culture, no matter where, prefer to live beside people of the same culture,they then more or less know how the guy next door thinks. It’s a bit unfair to comment as you have about Brits at home ,they, Especially, the English ,,(yep, England is only one part of the U.K. not as many believe it refers to All of the U.K. lol,)   have an awful lot to put up with, They are being slowly overwhelmed , it truly must be a living Hell in some parts , they have been suffering for generations!  I can only imagine as I live in Scotland and we don’t have anything like it.  Have you had experience of what i’m talking about , do you not understand where they are coming from?  Where did Mrs Thursdays accent disappear to, I loved it 🥰😂.    

I dunno who miss Thursday is. Scotland should've gone independent of England when it had the chance and stayed part of Europe but that's my opinion, although I am a Geordie I am also of Scotland and Ireland decent, my granny is Scottish. And come from a poor class, working background but I also live and run my own business in Spain with Italy family my wife is Italian and kids multinational so I have seen it all and have friends who completely disagree with me and friends who 100% agree with me. So yes I have alot of experience 

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Martyn1986 wrote on Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:15am:

Just because its simple doesn't make it untrue. How post on here recently about post Brexit 90day rules? Too many. So many British on here have said Spains just being arsey with the Brits by enforcing the rules. The people of the UK always complain about how many immigrants are in the UK and like...

... you said can be a burden, hence why they voted to leave Europe (one main reason). Yet they complain that they can't do the same in Spain and live and work easily, weather its legally or illegally bit hypocritical. But lets face it, you can with careful planning still enjoy 6 months in Spain at always better weather than the UK so it's nowt really major 

Life would be easier if everyone could easily travel somewhere to work, live, retire or just visit if there was no restrictions, no visas required, everyone accepted the countries rules and everyone got along well with each other the world would be a better place but unfortunately that isn't the case, we can dream though. 

We were going to take residency just before the cut off date. We however Had too many rented out properties here,and our own home too. Would’ve been too much tax to Spain!  So, sold off everything but our own, going to build our last house now and still don’t want to be in the Spanish grab all system.  So, as we have two tiny Romanian rescue dogs, I have to drive down twice a year ,only driver, rather than one trip for 6 months, I can’t understand the difference 180 is 180 why do they insist on splitting it? A simple change that would be , surely and suit most people . So, My place is in Bedar,    in Spain Feb normally Freezing, June to September is out for me , too hot for me and the dogs!  leaves Oct,Nov,Dec. have to be out of shengen then,Jan Feb March.   leaves   April and May. Not worth it at all.  If I had one trip. Dec,Jan Feb March April May I could put up with Feb.  However, Spain is getting hotter, And Colder at odd times !  So ,it’s Oct,Nov Dec every year then until something can change a little.    Scotland is actually much better, warm Summers, mild Winters,     i’ve hardly had any heating on all year. All Spains got is Sunny Days. 

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L181SKY wrote on Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:01am:

We were going to take residency just before the cut off date. We however Had too many rented out properties here,and our own home too. Would’ve been too much tax to Spain!  So, sold off everything but our own, going to build our last house now and still don’t want to be in the Spanish gr...

...ab all system.  So, as we have two tiny Romanian rescue dogs, I have to drive down twice a year ,only driver, rather than one trip for 6 months, I can’t understand the difference 180 is 180 why do they insist on splitting it? A simple change that would be , surely and suit most people . So, My place is in Bedar,    in Spain Feb normally Freezing, June to September is out for me , too hot for me and the dogs!  leaves Oct,Nov,Dec. have to be out of shengen then,Jan Feb March.   leaves   April and May. Not worth it at all.  If I had one trip. Dec,Jan Feb March April May I could put up with Feb.  However, Spain is getting hotter, And Colder at odd times !  So ,it’s Oct,Nov Dec every year then until something can change a little.    Scotland is actually much better, warm Summers, mild Winters,     i’ve hardly had any heating on all year. All Spains got is Sunny Days. 

The break up is to prevent or limit illegal summer work and to try and ensure that everyone goes home atleast once, basically it's easier to control 

Also it's to help keep bars and restaurants busy throughout winter 

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