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The EU has moved on,Little Englanders can deal with the mess of their own making.How stupid do the UK government take their electorate for when their big idea is bring back imperial measurements?
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:07pm
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I am pleased to note that it has been made clear above that Spain as a sovereign nation within the EU has the power to regulate entry, residence and duration of stay within its borders as long as that does not impinge upon EU regulations, which it need not as long as any concessions relate to Spain only. Many people expected this to happen by way of a comprehensive bi-lateral treaty and I understand that Spain had an 'oven ready' accord in preparation at an early stage. This was scuppered by the churlish, curmudgeonly, aggressive attitude of the British government, apparently predicated upon Boris Johnson's belief that the best way to demonstrate that the UK was once more an an independent, proud, self-determining state was by way of sabre rattling and making enemies of all our former friends and colleagues!
I have signed this petition more in hope than in expectation, largely because I feel it is justified in the majority of cases, especially where one opposed and campaigned vigorously against Brexit confident that it would be an unmitigated catastrophe at national and individual level. I was a member/citizen of the EU for 47 years, and a lover of Spain for most of that time, spending 5 to 6 months of every year there. I have had an NIE, Spanish bank account, and have owned an apartment there for many years so have paid exactly the same costs to maintain it as a resident ex-patriate. I have also taken the trouble to do a degree in Spanish which is certainly not the case with the majority of British expatriates and never shop in Iceland or Aldi, preferring to support the indigenous economy. Spain knows everything there is to know about me, so it seems a little unfair that despite this long love affair and symbiotic relationship with Spain, I now have to prove that I am not suffering from Yellow or Ebola Fever, and that I am not a psychopathic serial killer, if I wish to acquire residency not to mention the high costs and burdensome bureaucracy which now obtains and is clearly directed more to those who have no links with Spain and who do need to be vetted thoroughly on grounds of national security.
GrahamWL wrote on Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:07pm:
I am pleased to note that it has been made clear above that Spain as a sovereign nation within the EU has the power to regulate entry, residence and duration of stay within its borders as long as that does not impinge upon EU regulations, which it need not as long as any concessions relate to Spa...
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...in only. Many people expected this to happen by way of a comprehensive bi-lateral treaty and I understand that Spain had an 'oven ready' accord in preparation at an early stage. This was scuppered by the churlish, curmudgeonly, aggressive attitude of the British government, apparently predicated upon Boris Johnson's belief that the best way to demonstrate that the UK was once more an an independent, proud, self-determining state was by way of sabre rattling and making enemies of all our former friends and colleagues!
I have signed this petition more in hope than in expectation, largely because I feel it is justified in the majority of cases, especially where one opposed and campaigned vigorously against Brexit confident that it would be an unmitigated catastrophe at national and individual level. I was a member/citizen of the EU for 47 years, and a lover of Spain for most of that time, spending 5 to 6 months of every year there. I have had an NIE, Spanish bank account, and have owned an apartment there for many years so have paid exactly the same costs to maintain it as a resident ex-patriate. I have also taken the trouble to do a degree in Spanish which is certainly not the case with the majority of British expatriates and never shop in Iceland or Aldi, preferring to support the indigenous economy. Spain knows everything there is to know about me, so it seems a little unfair that despite this long love affair and symbiotic relationship with Spain, I now have to prove that I am not suffering from Yellow or Ebola Fever, and that I am not a psychopathic serial killer, if I wish to acquire residency not to mention the high costs and burdensome bureaucracy which now obtains and is clearly directed more to those who have no links with Spain and who do need to be vetted thoroughly on grounds of national security.
All that yes, but like the rest of us, at the end of the day (loyal or not) you are only a number!!
Steve
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:20pm
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tebo53 wrote on Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:12pm:
All that yes, but like the rest of us, at the end of the day (loyal or not) you are only a number!!
Steve
I AM NOT A NUMBER, I AM A FREE HUMAN BEING!!!
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dinnerout wrote on Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:20pm:
I AM NOT A NUMBER, I AM A FREE HUMAN BEING!!!
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Ah but he only had one arm......💪
Steve
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:46pm
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Doh! That was The Fugitive.....
Although he himself had both arms and was permanently in search of the killer what dun it......
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:48am
aitchc1401 wrote on Fri Jun 3, 2022 9:46am:
There are visas available in both the US and Australia that allow visitors to stay for up to 6 months. The US ESTA allows for stays up to 90 days but does not limit how many times you can go into the US. As long as the traveller has the funds to support themselves, keeps out of trouble the...
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...n there are no issues with extended stays for British people or other nationalities in ether country. I am sure most non-EU countries have similar visa options.
Economically it makes sense for countries such as Greece, Portugal, Spain, etc who attract holiday visitors to offer extended stays. That is not blaming anyone, or excusing anyone of unfair treatment or asking for special treatment for British passport holders, it's just a fact.
Aitch.
Spot on!
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:12am
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I see where it is hoped the Spanish Digital Nomad Visa will be available by the end of September to facilitate Third Country citizens. That should give a glimmer of hope that something similar could happen for the 90 day visa to extend it to 180 days.
Bee
Darro wrote on Wed Jun 1, 2022 9:37am:
I wish it luck but fear it's going to take rather more than 1500 signatures from cheesed off Brits for the Schengen rules to get changed.
I wonder how many of those will be from genuine property owners as opposed to friends or family signing in support or from others sympathetic to the cause?
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UK voluntarily left the club so have no claim for preferential treatment over other non EU nationals.
Some point to France which has introduced a visa for stays between 3 months and 1 year but it's a presupposition for residency not a 'wink wink' workaround for the 90 day rule so highly probable it would work just the once.
Unlike most of the other respondents, I am quite positive. There are quite a few lawyers of UK origin on this forum who want to scare ex pat's into spending money on legal services.
I speak as a former member of The Diplomatic Service, and I can tell you with say 70% confidence that in due course UK citizens who own property in Spain ( outright not a mortgage) will be granted the right to occupy without restriction.
Yours etc ....
Madcarew wrote on Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:12am:
Unlike most of the other respondents, I am quite positive. There are quite a few lawyers of UK origin on this forum who want to scare ex pat's into spending money on legal services.
I speak as a former member of The Diplomatic Service, and I can tell you with say 70% confidence that in due course UK citizens who own property in Spain ( outright not a mortgage) will be granted the right to occupy without restriction....
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Yours etc ....
Any supporting evidence for this?
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