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Leafy211

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:40pm

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:40pm

Leafy211 wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:38pm:

unfortunately some humans will always choose to abuse a system.  A nurse who has an allotment plot next to mine told me that the whole of the finance department had been vaccinated at our county hospital (where she works) and yet the frontline workers such as herself, were still waiting.&nbs...

...p; If there had been vaccinations needing using up etc, there are frontline staff in situ, at any time, who could have/should have been called forward before a back office function such as the finance department who work 9-5!!  I guess they are the ones 'buying' the vaccinations so have first dibs.  Nutso!

sorry - I should have mentioned this is in the UK

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:46pm

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Yes. On the face of things it looks bad but think about it, just think about it. If the hospital took it upon themselves to vaccinate staff who weren’t in line for it, the newspapers, tv and more would bad mouth them. They had no choice but to offer the vaccines to anyone who came forward. These vaccines don’t last once they have been removed from their -7degrees.  It will be a different story when the Astra Zeneca/ Oxford vaccines roll out.  You only have to be on this forum to understand how judgemental people are. You can’t win in today’s world. They did the right thing even though we consider it wrong.  I rest my case. 

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Leafy211 wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:40pm:

sorry - I should have mentioned this is in the UK

I have knowledge of this too.  Two friends of mine working from home for the NHS were vaccinated before two of my relatives who are front line nurses.

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:06pm

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:06pm

Grannyrose wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:46pm:

Yes. On the face of things it looks bad but think about it, just think about it. If the hospital took it upon themselves to vaccinate staff who weren’t in line for it, the newspapers, tv and more would bad mouth them. They had no choice but to offer the vaccines to anyone who came forward. Thes...

...e vaccines don’t last once they have been removed from their -7degrees.  It will be a different story when the Astra Zeneca/ Oxford vaccines roll out.  You only have to be on this forum to understand how judgemental people are. You can’t win in today’s world. They did the right thing even though we consider it wrong.  I rest my case. 

That might be the case in certain circumstances, but not this one clearly.  24 hour front line staff coming after 9-5 back office staff.  Newspapers etc are extremely reticent to diss the NHS in any form whatsoever, at the moment.

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:50pm

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Leafy211 wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:06pm:

That might be the case in certain circumstances, but not this one clearly.  24 hour front line staff coming after 9-5 back office staff.  Newspapers etc are extremely reticent to diss the NHS in any form whatsoever, at the moment.

This is a saying I often use snd it seems fitting in this instance. It is in reference to the person who made the decision to announce and invite people to come forward .  A contingency plan should have been put in place to allow for unused vaccines.  IF THEY HAD BRAINS, THEY’D BE DANGEROUS!  That’s what we are up against I’m afraid to say. 

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:11am

Grannyrose wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:50pm:

This is a saying I often use snd it seems fitting in this instance. It is in reference to the person who made the decision to announce and invite people to come forward .  A contingency plan should have been put in place to allow for unused vaccines.  IF THEY HAD BRAINS, THEY’D BE DAN...

...GEROUS!  That’s what we are up against I’m afraid to say. 

You are not wrong !! And the U.K. would still be in the EU 🤬

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:23pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:23pm

Grannyrose wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:50pm:

This is a saying I often use snd it seems fitting in this instance. It is in reference to the person who made the decision to announce and invite people to come forward .  A contingency plan should have been put in place to allow for unused vaccines.  IF THEY HAD BRAINS, THEY’D BE DAN...

...GEROUS!  That’s what we are up against I’m afraid to say. 

Hi there,

You amake a good point about the vaccine having a limited shelf life and it going to waste in some places - in our area there is an arrangement that people (close to hand) can be called at the end of the day if there are DNAs (did not attend) and ofcourse this has meant that quite a few 'non essential' NHS workers have been vaccinated as reserves - of course the NHS cannot operate without finance people or procuremnet pepole etc and although they are not in the first categories of priority there really would be no point inthe program if the vaccine could not continue to be orderedand managed/ avoiding waste.

In my view some critical leadership posts such as mayors should be offered vaccine (or at least as reserves) since a) they have a key role in the smooth running of covid/ normal business arrangements and perhaps more importantly b) they set and example and offset some of the conspiracy theorists who spread rumours that it is not safe (which could if not checked prevent eventual community immunity and lead to this virus persisting well into the future). Just my opinion.

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:39pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:39pm

Totally agree with you. There’s no point in wasting the vaccine. 

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:55pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:55pm

Grannyrose wrote on Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:39pm:

Totally agree with you. There’s no point in wasting the vaccine. 

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29am

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29am

Leafy211 wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:06pm:

That might be the case in certain circumstances, but not this one clearly.  24 hour front line staff coming after 9-5 back office staff.  Newspapers etc are extremely reticent to diss the NHS in any form whatsoever, at the moment.

I do agree your point that NHS generally and so called "front line" staff (interesting but undefined use of military terminology) have been elevated to a godly status and therefore beyond criticism by the media which is unhelpful. It is a fact that while some parts of the NHS are under huge pressures, equally huge swathes of the NHS are lying fallow at the moment with large numbers of staff underemployed but you don't hear much about that because it's an inconvenient truth that doesn't fit the narrative.

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