90 day rule

It's a rumour without foundation which had been circulating for some time.

There is no truth in it and it isn't going to happen.

Two regions, Valencia and Andalusia, were saying they could ask for the 90 days to be increased to 180 in one go but Portugal tried it and were rebuffed by the EU. Nothing more has been heard and that was a couple of years ago. It pops up every now and again but the EU won't make the UK a special case as other nationals who can only stay 90 days would object.

The last time I heard about any country looking to try and extend the 90 day stay was a MP in France proposing a visa that would allow home owners to stay for longer than 90 days but still no more than 180 days in any 360. I doubt this will progress but who knows. The proposal is that the visa would be valid for 5 years.

https://www.propertyguides.com/france/news/more-mps-back-visa-proposal-for-second-home-owners-in-france/

Aitch.

IMO it would be grossly unfair for any concession to be for the benefit of property owners only.

We have opposite views then Darro. If someone has made a significant financial investment in a property and continues to pay the annual costs associated with the property then I believe it makes sense to allow them a longer consecutive periods of access. 

  If you look into the reason the French MP is pushing for extended access is because second home owners spend money in the country which benefits the local economy, so a win win. Longer visits  would cut down on the number of journeys, so better for the environment as well. 

Rgds,

Aitch.

I agree with Darro....

Steve

That's your prerogative Steve, but as you are a resident who rents then it's no impact to you either way. On the other hand those second home owner, non-residents would probably have a different view, as may the local business owners who would benefit from additional spending.

 What matters though is what the EU countries do about it regardless of what our opinions are. Several French politicians are pushing for the change, so as to benefit their constituents. Doubtless they are doing this because their constituents have raised the question with them.

Rgds,

Aitch.

It's a shame the rules now affect those who can only come out for a certain time. However, that time is still 6 months a year albeit split into a minimum of two visits so I can't really see how any extra spending would come about. You'd still spend the same but in separate lots. 

I suppose when nothing was checked, people would actually spend more than 6 months here and not bother having residency so would spend more. Now, though, if they do take out residency at least they'll be paying income tax in Spain.

I know the main sticking point is that they can't make the UK a special case. The Russians, Americans (in ever increasing numbers) and others would be a bit miffed if the UK home owners could spend longer here than they could. 

France does have a long stay visa to stay between 3 months and a year and allows you to visit any other EU country providing you don't exceed the 90 days in 180 in other countries. You must, however, apply for a resident permit for that stay. 

There are lots of strings attached such as not working, proving you have the income and the medical cover etc. Not sure about tax residency if you stayed over 6 months, though. 

I understand all's concerned. But at the end of the day, eg: The club rules haven't changed. Those who left the club ( by choice, or by other members) need to reapply & change the rules. It's taken many years to arrive at this "state of ( ongoing) "play". The "game" goes on. Rule changes will apply. V