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jimtaylor

Posted: Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:21pm

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Posted: Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:21pm

It all depends on what Spain decide to do. In the no-deal law it said that the TIE could be for up to five years - provided the UK reciprocated, which didn't happen.

All we can do is wait until the Spanish authorities publish the requirements and procedure. 

The worst-case scenario is 1/2/5 year renewals with a need to prove finances on each of the renewals.

The best-case scenario is a 5 year TIE from the outset.

Mags03169

Posted: Sun Feb 9, 2020 6:16pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 9, 2020 6:16pm

Hi Jim , can I clarify a point you made here re having an annuity, if resident in Spain are annuities not taxed ?

Thank you.

jimtaylor

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:48am

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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:48am

It depends on whether or not the fund for an annuity was paid into by yourself or an employer. If it was yourself, then you only declare a portion of the income:

https://www.costablancaforum.com/area/la-marina-spain-72/taxes-suma-nie-tax-advice-in-la-marina-25/residents-income-tax-annuities-20466/


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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:14pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:14pm

Hi, I have been in Spain since August last year and I acquired my residencia in October.

I didn’t have to prove any income at all, just money in the bank.

My partner acquired her residencia with €10,000 in the bank with no proof of income required

I don’t think that has changed post brexit yet although I can’t confirm that

Hope this helps 

regards

Shane

Mags03169

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:21pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:21pm

My work pension which I could purchase an annuity was funded 3% by me and 17% by my employer.

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jimtaylor

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:34pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:34pm

Mags03169 wrote on Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:21pm:

My work pension which I could purchase an annuity was funded 3% by me and 17% by my employer.

So who paid the other 80%?

The proportion paid for by yourself is eligible for the discounts applicable to annuities, but the remainder would be taxed on the full amount.

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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:48pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:48pm

These are just the monthly contributions based on my salary over the last 19 years that have made up my pension pot Jim , I haven’t yet decided whether to buy an annuity or do flexible draw down .

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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:29am

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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:29am

If we moved from UK this year, would we need to apply twice more b4 5 years is up to get permanent residency.  If, so what income/money in the bank would we need to prove on those further occasions 

jimtaylor

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:27pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:27pm

Hi Cindy, nobody knows yet. 

If non-EU national rules apply, then you'd have to convert your residency certificate to a TIE, renew it after one year, renew it after a further two years, then at the five year point apply for a permanent TIE.

Spain have scope within the withdrawal agreement to decide on a different requirement.

It's the same with proof of finances, as the withdrawal agreement says 'may' rather than 'shall' require proof of finances.

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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:35pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:35pm

Thank you! 

So if non-eu, that would mean we would have to prove a substantial income coming in each time? 

Kind regards 

Cindy 

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