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Obtaining a permission to do minor work within a property

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:34pm
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Hi all!

I need to change my patio opening doors to a upvc sliding door system, thoroughly update my kitchan and cgange my bathroom to a shower room both with total replacement, total cost around eu20.000 or so. Do I need permission from the council (Villamartin so would be Orihuela?) and if so, any advice would be helpful.

Thanks!

Graham

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:30pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:30pm

If on a community you would need permission from your community of owners. If others have had it done then you don't need that permission as it a given it will allowed. See your President first.

You need to apply at your local town hall and, from Villamartin, that would be Orihuela Costa and the office used to be in Playa Flamenca next to the Mercadona complex. They may ask for a letter of permission from your community.

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:02pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:02pm

marcliff wrote on Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:30pm:

If on a community you would need permission from your community of owners. If others have had it done then you don't need that permission as it a given it will allowed. See your President first.

You need to apply at your local town hall and, from Villamartin, that would be Orihuela Costa and the office used to be in Playa Flamenca next to the Mercadona complex. They may ask for a letter of permission from your community....

 

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Thanks very much!

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:18am

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6sunrise wrote on Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:02pm:

Thanks very much!

Under Spanish Law, you need to seek permission for all and any work you do to a property, even if its relaying new tiles inside, however, if your just changing like for like then you can get away without any permissions or licences because who's going to know!!!

The thing to bare in mind, other than advice already given if living on an Urb, is if you are changing the or altering the m2 size of either the Villa or outside are ie, making it smaller because your building an extension or making it larger by removing trees etc then you will need to also seek permission.

Most Spanish will just do the work and worry about whether permissions are needed or not later on in life if and when they ever come to sell as the fines imposed for not getting the permissions is much less than that which you are charged with at the time.

I guess it comes down to this: if the work you are doing improves the quality of the property ie, going from septic tank to mains sewage, then do it by the Book and get a Factura as you can claim this back if and when you sell.  Same for your doors.  If its going to improve on energy efficency then get a facture.

Ultimately, if you live on an Urb, your going to need to the Presidents and Residents permission anyway.

Hope this helps.  With blessings

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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:38am

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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:38am

DEP003 wrote on Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:18am:

Under Spanish Law, you need to seek permission for all and any work you do to a property, even if its relaying new tiles inside, however, if your just changing like for like then you can get away without any permissions or licences because who's going to know!!!

The thing to bare in mind, other than advice already given if living on an Urb, is if you are changing the or altering the m2 size of either the Villa or outside are ie, making it smaller because your building an extension or making it larger by removing trees etc then you will need to also seek ...

 

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...permission.

Most Spanish will just do the work and worry about whether permissions are needed or not later on in life if and when they ever come to sell as the fines imposed for not getting the permissions is much less than that which you are charged with at the time.

I guess it comes down to this: if the work you are doing improves the quality of the property ie, going from septic tank to mains sewage, then do it by the Book and get a Factura as you can claim this back if and when you sell.  Same for your doors.  If its going to improve on energy efficency then get a facture.

Ultimately, if you live on an Urb, your going to need to the Presidents and Residents permission anyway.

Hope this helps.  With blessings

Thanks, great help!

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:18am

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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:18am

Hi 6sunrise,

I agree with DEP003, in theory you have to obtain permission for any and all changes to your property.  However, when we refitted our kitchen and one of our bathrooms, our Town Hall wasn't interested so long as we weren't moving or enlarging existing window and door positions.  Conversely, when we had an outside bathroom built in our utility room, we had to obtain a licence because we divided the space with a brick wall, which necessitated cutting through the external wall of the house to install another doorway.  Similarly, when we replaced an inherited wooden shed for a much larger one, our Town Hall insisted that it was sited in the same area, although we didn't have to obtain a licence for the shed itself (because it's wooden, so regarded as a "temporary" structure), but we had to obtain a minor works licence for the 5m x 3m slabbed base we had built on which to site the shed.

Kind regards,

Kim

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:05pm

6sunrise

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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:05pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:18am:

Hi 6sunrise,

I agree with DEP003, in theory you have to obtain permission for any and all changes to your property.  However, when we refitted our kitchen and one of our bathrooms, our Town Hall wasn't interested so long as we weren't moving or enlarging existing window and door positions.  Converse...

 

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...ly, when we had an outside bathroom built in our utility room, we had to obtain a licence because we divided the space with a brick wall, which necessitated cutting through the external wall of the house to install another doorway.  Similarly, when we replaced an inherited wooden shed for a much larger one, our Town Hall insisted that it was sited in the same area, although we didn't have to obtain a licence for the shed itself (because it's wooden, so regarded as a "temporary" structure), but we had to obtain a minor works licence for the 5m x 3m slabbed base we had built on which to site the shed.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thanks Kim looks like I can swerve this one!!!

Best

Graham

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