Irish passport, 90 days? - Residency in San Miguel de Salinas: padron, residencia and passport advice - San Miguel de Salinas forum - Costa Blanca forum in the Alicante province of Spain
Costa Blanca Building Specialists
James Spanish School
interior building work
Car Key Solutions
Thy Will Be Done
Expat Services
Blacktower Financial Management
Airport Service Taxi Mil Palmeras  Torre de la Horadada
Jennifer Cunningham Insurances SL
AA Free English TV
Gran Alacant Insurances
POSITIVE BELIEFS
ASSSA Insurance
Espana Dream Properties
Gentlevan Removals

Join the San Miguel de Salinas forum

Join the San Miguel de Salinas forumMy name's Alex and this is my website all about San Miguel de Salinas in Spain. Register now for free to talk about Residency in San Miguel de Salinas: padron, residencia and passport advice and much more!

Irish passport, 90 days?

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:59am
10 replies5 members subscribed
Chris667

Posts: 4

Joined: 10 Feb 2020

Hi, this is my first time posting on the forum. 

We have previously holidayed in this area but would like to spend a longer time there over the winter (rental) 

As Irish passport holders, can we legally stay longer than 90 days without either leaving the country, or at some point during the 90 days, would we need to apply for residencia? 

marcliff

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:11pm

marcliff

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 1759

2110 helpful points

Location: Rojales

Joined: 5 Jan 2023

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:11pm

Chris667 wrote on Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:59am:

Hi, this is my first time posting on the forum. 

We have previously holidayed in this area but would like to spend a longer time there over the winter (rental) 

As Irish passport holders, can we legally stay longer than 90 days without either leaving the country, or at some point during the 90 days, would we need to apply for residencia? 

You don't apply for residency as an EU citizen. You apply to go on the register of EU foreign citizens residing in Spain and get a little green card. You can then stay longer than 90 days providing you can show you have sufficient funds and medical cover to last your stay.

Be aware that if you exceed 183 days in one year you will be classed as a tax paying citizen. As you have to sign on the padron to get the green card, make sure you cancel the padron when you leave or you may be asked, in future, why you haven't filed a tax return. 

Plus, that is how it should happen. In days of yore when UK was in the EU, no checks were made on entry or exit so we just stayed as long as we liked. This, however, could all change when the new electronic registration of travel comes in. (possibly September next year). 

Chris667

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:03pm

Chris667

Original Poster

Posts: 4

Joined: 10 Feb 2020

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:03pm

marcliff wrote on Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:11pm:

You don't apply for residency as an EU citizen. You apply to go on the register of EU foreign citizens residing in Spain and get a little green card. You can then stay longer than 90 days providing you can show you have sufficient funds and medical cover to last your stay.

Be aware that if you exceed 183 days in one year you will be classed as a tax paying citizen. As you have to sign on the padron to get the green card, make sure you cancel the padron when you leave or you may be asked, in future, why you haven't filed a tax return. ...

...

Plus, that is how it should happen. In days of yore when UK was in the EU, no checks were made on entry or exit so we just stayed as long as we liked. This, however, could all change when the new electronic registration of travel comes in. (possibly September next year). 

Hi thanks for reply! 

Can you just clarify that the little green card you mention in your first paragraph is different to the one in the second paragraph?? 

Also, where do you apply to go on the register of EU citizens? 

Thanks again! 

marcliff

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:33pm

marcliff

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 1759

2110 helpful points

Location: Rojales

Joined: 5 Jan 2023

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:33pm

It's the same little green card.

You have to make an appointment at a National Police station in the province you are going to stay. You will need an NIE number which can be obtained at the same place.

The system and how it works plus the application form is on this site https://sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/pagina/index/directorio/icpplus

Or you can ring 060 to make an appointment but English is pretty non existent when they answer.

You select the province, then the procedure under National Police which allows you to get an NIE and the foreigner's card.

Chris667

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:15pm

Chris667

Original Poster

Posts: 4

Joined: 10 Feb 2020

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:15pm

marcliff wrote on Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:33pm:

It's the same little green card.

You have to make an appointment at a National Police station in the province you are going to stay. You will need an NIE number which can be obtained at the same place.

The system and how it works plus the application form is on this site https://sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/pagina/index/directorio/icpplus

Or you can ring 060 to make an appointment but English is pretty non existent when they answer.

You select the province, then the procedure under National Police which allows you to get an NIE and the foreigner's card.

All very helpful! Thanks, 

Advertisement - posts continue below

killjoy

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:36pm

killjoy

Super helpful member

Posts: 3230

1852 helpful points

Location: Orihuela Costa

Joined: 4 Nov 2017

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:36pm

As long as you do not need to carry out legal transactions there is no need to wake up sleeping dogs. No one will know if you are here vor 9, 90, or 900 days if you don't tell  'em.

John123456

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:53pm

John123456

Super helpful member

Posts: 1479

1071 helpful points

Location: Benidorm

Joined: 27 Feb 2021

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:53pm

A EU/EEA national can live in Spain as a tourist without residency for a maximum of 90 days. After those 3 months, you need to either obtain a residence permit, or leave the country. 

It is always best to follow official guidance. The following link contains information issued by the Irish Department of Foreign Affairs for all Irish Nationals:

https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/spain/our-services/new-to-spain/residency-and-entry-requirements/

Darro

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:02pm

Darro

Super helpful member

Posts: 1502

1309 helpful points

Location: Catral

Joined: 8 Sep 2021

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:02pm

I don't know what you mean by "legal transactions".

It's perfectly possible to say buy a property or a car, both arguably legal transactions, which can be carried out without any reference to how long you may or may not have been in the country.

I agree that ETIAS and EES may well change things for some EU passport holders in the future, particularly those who don't live on mainland Europe, e.g. Ireland, who at some point will need to engage with border controls to enter or exit the Schengen area as opposed to those who can simply drive around within the EU crossing borders as they will.

TonySmith

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:15am

TonySmith

Helpful member

Posts: 399

342 helpful points

Location: Torrevieja

Joined: 1 Mar 2022

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:15am

Just be aware that by signing-on on the Padron registers you in the municipality/area and this in turn brings federal  financial benefits to the ayuntamiento. Easy to sign onto, but when you want to sign off, no one understands what you want, nor do they speak english anymore.

Bee2

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:01pm

Bee2

Helpful member

Posts: 431

277 helpful points

Location: Torrevieja

Joined: 19 Oct 2019

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:01pm

If you are only going to be holidaying in Spain you shouldn't sign on the Padrón. The Padrón is a count of permanent residents which you don't intend on being from reading your post. You just want to be a swallow or a snowbird  like  tens of thousands of other visitors to Spain with EU Passports :)

Bee

Sign up for free or login to reply to this topic

Want to reply to this topic? Login or register for free to post your message:

Find more Padron, residencia and passport advice topics from a particular area:


Register for free!

Login to your account

Costa Blanca Building Specialists
James Spanish School
interior building work
Car Key Solutions
Thy Will Be Done
Expat Services
Blacktower Financial Management
Airport Service Taxi Mil Palmeras  Torre de la Horadada
Jennifer Cunningham Insurances SL
AA Free English TV
Gran Alacant Insurances
POSITIVE BELIEFS
ASSSA Insurance
Espana Dream Properties
Gentlevan Removals
Advertise your business here
Advertise your property
Help with my computer