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Lorraine86

Posted: Thu Dec 9, 2021 7:53pm

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Posted: Thu Dec 9, 2021 7:53pm

Can you still live 8n spain if you own an apartment after Brexit

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Cheryl

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Posted: Thu Dec 9, 2021 8:59pm

Lorraine86 wrote on Thu Dec 9, 2021 7:53pm:

Can you still live 8n spain if you own an apartment after Brexit

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Unfortunately owning a property makes no difference at all, you are limited to 90 days in 180 unless you qualify for a non lucrative visa (NLV).

Lorraine86

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:19pm

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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:19pm

Hi,

Can you tell me please what is a noon lucrative visa 

Thank you lorraine

tebo53

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:17pm

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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:17pm

Lorraine86 wrote on Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:19pm:

Hi,

Can you tell me please what is a noon lucrative visa 

Thank you lorraine

A non lucrative visa (NLV) is a visa you can apply for to be able to move to Spain and then to apply for residency. 

You will need to apply for a visa from the Spanish consulate in the UK. You will need to meet the income and healthcare requirements. 

A non lucrative visa will not allow you to work in Spain. 

Here is a link to visas that apply to Spain:

https://visaguide.world/europe/spain-visa/

Steve 

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Lorraine86

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:38am

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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:38am

tebo53 wrote on Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:17pm:

A non lucrative visa (NLV) is a visa you can apply for to be able to move to Spain and then to apply for residency. 

You will need to apply for a visa from the Spanish consulate in the UK. You will need to meet the income and healthcare requirements. 

A non lucrative visa will not allow you to work in Spain. 

Here is a link to visas that apply to Spain:

https://visaguide.world/europe/spain-visa/

Steve 

Thankyou so much tebo53 this is really helpful if I have a residencia would it apply to me? 

tebo53

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:13am

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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:13am

Lorraine86 wrote on Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:38am:

Thankyou so much tebo53 this is really helpful if I have a residencia would it apply to me? 

If you already have residency then there is no reason to apply for the NLV. 

Having gained the NLV then that is the first step in applying for residency. 

Steve

Hunter45

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:08pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:08pm

Gilly09 wrote on Sat Feb 2, 2019 7:05pm:

My advice would be to stop looking at 'what ifs' - the truth of the matter is none of us know how long we have got on this earth.  Could be soon, tomorrow, next week or 30 years time!!

Most people go back as they miss grandchildren that come along.  Yes some do lose their partners and then go back to the UK.  Some lose their partners and stay in Spain as that is their home and carry on with their life and social life regardless of changed circumstances....

...

If you concentrate on the possible illnesses etc you will never get anywhere in life. Go for it, treat Spain as your new home, stop thinking of UK as a 'bolt hole' and enjoy your life.

Today my friend in the UK is cold and fed up with winter.  Today I had a brilliant walk on the beach in the sun (lovely and windy) with my dog and sat outside and had a lovely cup of coffee.

No I am not a spring chicken but this life in Spain can keep you active if that is what you wish - stay active eat healthily and love every single minute of your new chapter.  Old age really is a state of mind and sunshine is the best cure.

Enjoy - Gilly

Spot on gilly

Care4

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:15pm

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Cheryl wrote on Sat Dec 8, 2018 9:13pm:

I´m not sure what care you are talking about that is available in the UK. I have recent first hand experience of there being very little.
My father had 3 visits daily from carers who had time for little more than to fill out their paperwork. The last one noted that he felt ill and promptly le...

...ft. He´d had a stroke and was dead within the week.
Mum was at this time in hospital after collapsing and shattering her ankle (exhausted from caring for Dad for years with little if no respite) and would have been discharged home whilst still non-weight bearing to continue caring full time for Dad if she wasn´t able to pay for a private care home during her recovery.
Where was I in all this? Driving myself mad trying to work, keep an eye on Dad who lived an hour away and refused to go into a home whilst Mum was in hospital, whilst also spending as much time as I could with Mum.
Dad had been in hospital a few times before this, about 45 minutes drive away, and I could have cried with the lack of care on the wards and I refused to stick to visiting hours only. There was an elderly lady, probably with dementia, wandering the mixed ward with her hospital gown hitched up around her waist, totally naked underneath, looking for the toilet. Nobody came, she wet herself. A gentleman in the next bed mortified that the nurse told him there was nobody available to get him a bed pan so he must wet the bed, crying in shame, an elderly lady left with a salad sandwich which was just spilling all over the bed, she didn´t have the strength or co-ordination to eat it by herself, alarm bells ringing constantly, but ignored. On one of Dad´s discharge dates, I arrived to find him sat in the chair surrounded by his own urine. The nurse had removed the tube from the catheter bag but left Dad attached. He told me he had been sat there for about 3 hours. Because he was down for discharge, no lunch had been ordered for him so he had not eaten since breakfast. He was diabetic.
Mum, at 82 and just a week post surgery, in a 1200 GBP a week private nursing home was left in her unheated room ( in February with snow on the ground outside) when the heater broke with just an extra blanket. I was told that an engineer would come, but nobody did and no, I couldn´t bring our own electric heater in as it hadn´t been PAT tested. I found the person in charge and said I was going to start shouting, and I wasn´t going to stop shouting until they found a heater. Miraculously, one appeared.
I think I´ll take my chances in Spain.

 Can I say that what you have experienced leaves me feeling extremely upset and very angry. I had a elderly care home in Scotland which my wife and I ran. I was also the chairman of our local carehome association and an executive director of Scottish Care. Our home when we purchased it had 13 rooms, four of them en-suite, three of them twin rooms. When we sold up the home had 40, all single en-suite rooms with level deck showers. We had won numerous awards with the home and had excellent inspection reports. When looking for a home we would visit and our criteria was, would OUR parents be happy here? If not can we make it that they would be happy here? If not we walked away. Our mantra? Residents first, staff next us last. Sadly too many people (in every country, Spain included) view elderly care as an unending cash machine. Worse still governments view the elderly as an annually diminishing voter pool.

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