You've nothing to worry about. Agencia Tributaria can't come after you for something someone else has failed to do.
As an aside, did you buy a car here? - I remember you asking about it. If so, you should have a certificate of non-residence.
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:18pm
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You've nothing to worry about. Agencia Tributaria can't come after you for something someone else has failed to do.
As an aside, did you buy a car here? - I remember you asking about it. If so, you should have a certificate of non-residence.
Thanks Jim
Yes I bought a new car in February this year and I am not sure about non residency certificate if I need one what do I do and how much does it cost, the car company never mentioned this, when I bought our apartment in 2016 we used a solicitor in torrevieja will they have got certificate at same time, we gave a NIE number
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:46pm
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I'll just repeat something I said in a previous post:
I thought that might catch you out!
It's illegal to own and drive a Spanish registered car unless you're a resident, or have a certificate of non-residency, and the Guardia Civil have been known to fine drivers who can't produce the certificate (unless, of course, it's a hire car).
Don't ask for the logic behind this - I doubt there is one.
I don't know how long you've had a bank account here, but banks are required to report information about account holders to the tax office. Because the reporting requirements are different for resident and non-resident accounts, for non-residents the banks themselves will (I think every two years) apply on your behalf for the non-resident certificate (and charge you for doing so). It's cheaper to get the certificate yourself, but most people just let the bank do it, and save themselves the hassle.
So, in your case, I'd ask your bank if they would give you a copy of the certificate. Otherwise, the application procedure is the same as applying for an NIE - it's just a different tick box on the EX-15 application form.
You can ignore getting the certificate, but if you're stopped at any time by the police, then you might find you've got a problem. I'm sure you could successfully appeal against a fine, as I'm not aware of anything in the traffic law that requires a certificate to be carried when driving, but this could obviously be a painful process.
I'm shutting down now - the whisky bottle has just announced that it's being ignored!
So what about those recently arrived and in the process of obtaining official residence?
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jimtaylor wrote on Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:46pm:
I'll just repeat something I said in a previous post:
I thought that might catch you out!
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It's illegal to own and drive a Spanish registered car unless you're a resident, or have a certificate of non-residency, and the Guardia Civil have been known to fine drivers who can't produce the certificate (unless, of course, it's a hire car).
Don't ask for the logic behind this - I doubt there is one.
I don't know how long you've had a bank account here, but banks are required to report information about account holders to the tax office. Because the reporting requirements are different for resident and non-resident accounts, for non-residents the banks themselves will (I think every two years) apply on your behalf for the non-resident certificate (and charge you for doing so). It's cheaper to get the certificate yourself, but most people just let the bank do it, and save themselves the hassle.
So, in your case, I'd ask your bank if they would give you a copy of the certificate. Otherwise, the application procedure is the same as applying for an NIE - it's just a different tick box on the EX-15 application form.
You can ignore getting the certificate, but if you're stopped at any time by the police, then you might find you've got a problem. I'm sure you could successfully appeal against a fine, as I'm not aware of anything in the traffic law that requires a certificate to be carried when driving, but this could obviously be a painful process.
I'm shutting down now - the whisky bottle has just announced that it's being ignored!
Thanks jim
Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2018 7:39am
John57 wrote on Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:08pm:
Can anyone please translate this to engli
Have you tried the ap "Google Translate" . I use it all the time to convert Spanish to English (or visa versa).
Did your lonely whisky bottle perhaps override my earlier question: "So what about those recently arrived and in the process of obtaining official residence?"
We have bought a car which is now registered in my name although we don't in fact move down until May 15th. so haven't even begun applying for residencia yet. We do have a bank A/C but that was set up less than 6 weeks ago so I doubt there has been any reporting from there.
BTW for translations try DeepL, it's contextual which makes it far superior to Google which is more word based.
Albeit it from English to French we translated a number of texts for medical purposes and the doctors/consultants etc. who read them told us that they were near perfect leading some to switch to it themselves !
Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2018 9:44am
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If you're resident, but haven't yet got residencia, then it's potentially possible that you might have problems proving that if you come across an overly officious traffic policeman. But as I can't find anything in traffic law saying a car owner has to have a non-resident certificate, I would imagine that asking the policeman exactly where in the legislation this requirement appears should shut him up.
Thanks very much for the link to DeepL. On a quick test it looks very good. I'll be translating one of the laws later today, so I'll run them side-by-side. Google has always annoyed me because of the way it struggles with negatives, reflexive verbs and pronouns, but I've never found anything better. Until now???
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