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Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2019 11:36pm
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Pacoboy

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As all expats need to register after brexit will the tax office at last talk to the other departments and get there revenge for all the past year's on those under the radar

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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:02am

I was wondering why the Dutch explorer who discovered Tasmania would want to take revenge on anyone, but it seems it was a typo :-)

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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:32am

Pacoboy wrote on Sat Mar 9, 2019 11:36pm:

As all expats need to register after brexit will the tax office at last talk to the other departments and get there revenge for all the past year's on those under the radar

All expats and Non residents should be registered and paying tax anyway, nothing to do with Brexit. 

Anyone who doesn't pay tax will generally get found out sooner or later, particularly if they own property as when the property is sold all unpaid back taxes should be deducted from the sale.

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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:22am

Property taxes are pretty much unavoidable whichever way you play the game but I think the point is that up until now there have effectively been no checks or controls on anybody's comings and goings making it all too easy for those so inclined to live under the radar for years - or in some cases decades.

With that coming to an end and the prospect of only being able to spend 90 days at a time here many of the chancers are going have to tread a little carefully if now applying for residencia.

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:29am

Well, the Agencia Tributaria has managed to get tax from all those holiday home owners who were letting them out on the side. They now have to register and pay tax on the income.

I'm sure that post brexit registrations will be another opportunity for Spain to recover back tax unpaid - with fines.

It's an opportunity to ask questions and I'm sure one of them will be, how long have you been here? You will then have to justify the time spent between buying your property and now, and the next question will be why you didn't register residence and fiscally 10 years ago.

Oh, and the cars - why you are still driving a UK registered car when you have been here so long.

For those who don't register for residence and still have holiday homes, it's an opportunity to hike up the non-resident tax in order to pay for the administration of those who are registering.

Spain's economy is going to boom!


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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:53am

"For those who don't register for residence and still have holiday homes, it's an opportunity to hike up the non-resident tax in order to pay for the administration of those who are registering."

My definition of a holiday home is somewhere that you use for holidays. I own a holiday home in Spain and it would be illegal, inappropriate and ill-advised for me to register as a resident - because I never spend more than 90 days at one time or 183 days per year in Spain.

The increase in Non-resident tax, assuming it happens, will solely be a result of the UK choosing to align itself with every other non-EU country in the world, rathee than the Spanish taking the opportunity to "hike-up taxes".

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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:38pm

Yer Ray everyone who has been renting out illegally has been caught and now pays their taxes. R you on planet moon ?  πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»

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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:04pm

Wayne - There were many of us were always legal about renting out our holiday homes!  So please do not tar us all with the same brush!  Yes, there were a lot of people letting out properties illegally but at least now they will find it harder.

I know on my community there were several 'residents' who had been there years unofficially, returning to the UK for hospital appointments two or three times a year and evading paying their Spanish taxes.  A couple have now sold up due to fear of being caught out by Brexit and tighter monitoring of their travels, a couple have become Spanish residents (reluctantly) and at least one has said 'nothing will change and I'll be fine'!  Spain needs to tighten up and I have no objection to people being fined for tax evasion.


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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:27pm

I am not taring you all with same brush, my point is I bet their are more renting out illegally than paying taxes on rental. How's it been made harder ? The Spanish government is skint and don't have the manpower or resources to manage the problem simple as. 

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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:36pm

It's now harder because the advertising platforms also get fined heavily for advertising a property without a license.  As a result no major website will list a property without a number.  It's illegal to advertise the property anywhere without quoting the license number in the ad.  I have seen a few ads on facebook without giving numbers but not on main portals.  They started fining the web site owners last summer resulting in hundreds of properties being taken down on one site alone.


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