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aitchc1401

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:33pm

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swcoulthurst wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 11:35am:

It's no different in the UK. Gas and electric prices doubled, food going up, fuel going up and no increase on the pension due to an exchange rate. Heat or eat is the latest in the UK again. At least here there are only 2-3 months you need any form of heating and that's usually at night, rather th...

...an 2-3 months max of not needing heating in the UK.

I don't think saying it is worse in the UK is much help to people living and paying bills in Spain.

 In the UK there is between £400 and £1250 aid for households depending upon personal circumstances, the lower the income the more aid is given.

UK inflation is roughly the same as in Spain and about in line with the EU average.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63121751

The money on offer will go quite a way to offsetting the energy increase costs. My power supplier starts deducting £66/67 from my monthly electric bill from October, this carries on for the next 6 months.  That helps people through the colder months. 

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Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:59pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:59pm

aitchc1401 wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:33pm:

I don't think saying it is worse in the UK is much help to people living and paying bills in Spain.

 In the UK there is between £400 and £1250 aid for households depending upon personal circumstances, the lower the income the more aid is given.

UK inflation is roughly the same as in Spain and about in line with the EU average.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63121751

The money on offer will go quite a way to offsetting the energy increase costs. My power supplier starts deducting £66/67 from my monthly electric bill from October, this carries on for the next 6 months.  That helps people through the colder months. 

Aitch.

No it doesn't. The payment from the supplier is paid into your bank account. You may be lucky and not struggling to make ends meet, unlike many others. If the money goes into bank accounts and you need to buy food, where will the so called energy payment go. Certainly not to pay for energy. The correct way would have been to credit the payment off energy Bill's, that would be the only way to ensure it goes to help with those Bills. I didn't say it was worse, I think my words were 'it's no different in the UK'. However at least the pension here has an exchange rate difference of 1.14 today, so technically worth more here than there. Also the use or lack of use of heating is also a fact, so the pension goes further here than there. Whichever way you butter it up you cannot deny the facts. 

swcoulthurst

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:06pm

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heather68 wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 11:55am:

Ok,but most of came here because it was cheap, we still have the same money,but now pay double to live,and most of us are over 60yrs of age.

Heather

My point is if you had stayed in the UK you would be in the same position. This is not just a problem in Spain. At least here your pension is a little higher. Every pound is at the moment worth 1.14 Euros and you will need less heating than in the UK. So if you feel you are struggling here, you would be the same in the UK.

elinspain

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:09pm

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Hello

£66/67 pound reduction is more than my entire bill from Iberdrola for Sept which was €47.61   & that,  was almost half of my July/Aug bills.

 My  single daughter in  the UK  gets bills  for so much more than me & she is out  at work 5 & half days a week so  using  far less electricity than I do.... 

 I know where I am better off.

Cheers

Elinspain

heather68

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:14pm

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swcoulthurst wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:59pm:

No it doesn't. The payment from the supplier is paid into your bank account. You may be lucky and not struggling to make ends meet, unlike many others. If the money goes into bank accounts and you need to buy food, where will the so called energy payment go. Certainly not to pay for energy. The c...

...orrect way would have been to credit the payment off energy Bill's, that would be the only way to ensure it goes to help with those Bills. I didn't say it was worse, I think my words were 'it's no different in the UK'. However at least the pension here has an exchange rate difference of 1.14 today, so technically worth more here than there. Also the use or lack of use of heating is also a fact, so the pension goes further here than there. Whichever way you butter it up you cannot deny the facts. 

Those of us in Spain would not agree our pension rate is good, over last 3 months my pension has dropped by 40euros per month, have to laugh UK gov have us an April increase to the tune of 50 euros increase per month not seeing better off.We are living in Spain not UK,and no we are not better off,worse off in our pocket than 3 years ago,forget a holiday or a visit to family in UK, cant afford it.

As only a small part of our fuel/gas comes from Russia, why are we being hammered by charges of gas on our electric bills ?

Heather.

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heather68

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:17pm

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elinspain wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:09pm:

Hello

£66/67 pound reduction is more than my entire bill from Iberdrola for Sept which was €47.61   & that,  was almost half of my July/Aug bills.

 My  single daughter in  the UK  gets bills  for so much more than me & she is out  at work 5 & half days a week so  using  far less electricity than I do.... 

 I know where I am better off.

Cheers

Elinspain

Which country does most of our gas/electric come from.

Heather.

swcoulthurst

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:34pm

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heather68 wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:14pm:

Those of us in Spain would not agree our pension rate is good, over last 3 months my pension has dropped by 40euros per month, have to laugh UK gov have us an April increase to the tune of 50 euros increase per month not seeing better off.We are living in Spain not UK,and no we are not better off...

...,worse off in our pocket than 3 years ago,forget a holiday or a visit to family in UK, cant afford it.

As only a small part of our fuel/gas comes from Russia, why are we being hammered by charges of gas on our electric bills ?

Heather.

I am in Spain. The reason your pension payment has dropped is because of the exchange rate. Nothing to do with Spain. So for simplicity sake, if you are on state pension of £185.15 per week. 185.15x52/12 gives you the monthly amount of £802.31. At an exchange rate today of 1.14, your pension is €914.63. Maybe I'm being thick, but which is the largest amount to spend? However after the recent rate of 1.11 it would have been €890.56 and you can blame Spain for Lizz Truss opening her mouth. Just think 3 years ago at the same monetary value of £802.31 and an exchange rate of 1.16 you would have got €930.67. It is the money market and weakened pound that effects your pension, not living in Spain.

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Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:38pm

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swcoulthurst wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:59pm:

No it doesn't. The payment from the supplier is paid into your bank account. You may be lucky and not struggling to make ends meet, unlike many others. If the money goes into bank accounts and you need to buy food, where will the so called energy payment go. Certainly not to pay for energy. The c...

...orrect way would have been to credit the payment off energy Bill's, that would be the only way to ensure it goes to help with those Bills. I didn't say it was worse, I think my words were 'it's no different in the UK'. However at least the pension here has an exchange rate difference of 1.14 today, so technically worth more here than there. Also the use or lack of use of heating is also a fact, so the pension goes further here than there. Whichever way you butter it up you cannot deny the facts. 

 So where did you read that the energy rebate gets paid into your bank account? I was advised by my supplier that the money is automatically credited to my energy account as though I had made a payment

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How you’ll get the discount

You do not need to apply for the discount, and there’s no need to contact your energy supplier.

The discount will be applied to your monthly household electricity bill for 6 months starting in October 2022. You’ll get:

  • £66 in October and November
  • £67 in December, January, February and March

----------------------------------------------

The above is from the UK Gov site. I think your getting confused with the other help that is being given out to the less well off.

  I have not "buttered" anything up and I have just told you the (accurate) facts. You can try and guess at my personal circumstances if you like but I don't see the relevance.

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heather68

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:40pm

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swcoulthurst wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:34pm:

I am in Spain. The reason your pension payment has dropped is because of the exchange rate. Nothing to do with Spain. So for simplicity sake, if you are on state pension of £185.15 per week. 185.15x52/12 gives you the monthly amount of £802.31. At an exchange rate today of 1.14, your pension is...

... €914.63. Maybe I'm being thick, but which is the largest amount to spend? However after the recent rate of 1.11 it would have been €890.56 and you can blame Spain for Lizz Truss opening her mouth. Just think 3 years ago at the same monetary value of £802.31 and an exchange rate of 1.16 you would have got €930.67. It is the money market and weakened pound that effects your pension, not living in Spain.

I will try and remember this when I next pay for shopping,or wood,my pension as not kept up with rising costs in Spain, It is far more expensive to buy things now,

Heather.

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Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:46pm

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elinspain wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 3:09pm:

Hello

£66/67 pound reduction is more than my entire bill from Iberdrola for Sept which was €47.61   & that,  was almost half of my July/Aug bills.

 My  single daughter in  the UK  gets bills  for so much more than me & she is out  at work 5 & half days a week so  using  far less electricity than I do.... 

 I know where I am better off.

Cheers

Elinspain

That's good for you Elinspain. The energy rebate is to help all, your daughter included, to cope with the massive increase in energy costs. The cost of living aid is to help the least well off.

   I have never said that someone is better off in the UK than Spain, just stating that the government is helping with the cost of energy and the increased cost of living in the UK. I am sure the government in Spain is helping with costs here also.

Aitch.

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