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Kimmy11

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:18pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:18pm

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There was no link in your last reply.  The 18 deaths I referred to were quoted in respect of a specific cause in a specific timeframe.

EDIT:  Ah, I see you've added one since originally posting, but Mark Steyn is not a virologist and is well-known for his conspiracy theories.

Regarding VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), it's a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences.   Whilst healthcare professionals are required by law to report to VAERS, anyone else can also submit a report, including parents and patients - and fellow conspiracy theorists.  You may want to read the opening paragraphs of their disclaimer:

"VAERS accepts reports of adverse events that occur following vaccination. Anyone, including healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public, can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS even if they are not sure if the vaccine was the cause. In some situations, reporting to VAERS is required of healthcare providers and vaccine manufacturers.

"VAERS reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Reports to VAERS can also be biased. As a result, there are limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind."

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:36pm

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aitchc1401 wrote on Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:51pm:

Thanks, however I look after myself from a health perspective and I do trust the medical authorities advice. I take (or as you put it, grab) whatever vaccines are recommended by the medical authorities and will continue to do so. So far 3 covid vaccinations and 2 flu jabs. I'm due a fourth covid ...

...inoculation this autumn plus another flu jab.

The majority of people I know, family and friends, do the same, they are living happily, safe in the knowledge that if they do catch covid then the vaccines help prevent serious affects. 

Aitch.

I have similar experiences, Aitch.  The only people in my friends and family circle who have died of Covid-19 were unvaccinated.  All those who have survived it were vaccinated.  For example, my father, who has had 4 doses of the Pfizer vaccine, contracted Covid in January this year and was poorly for 5 days, including 1 day in bed - but he is 94!  

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Kim

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:12pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:12pm

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On my grandmother's side we seem to have an immunity to Flu. My wife and I have had all our Covid Jabs and she also had the flu ones. So far we have been lucky loonies.

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:09pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:09pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:36pm:

I have similar experiences, Aitch.  The only people in my friends and family circle who have died of Covid-19 were unvaccinated.  All those who have survived it were vaccinated.  For example, my father, who has had 4 doses of the Pfizer vaccine, contracted Covid in January this yea...

...r and was poorly for 5 days, including 1 day in bed - but he is 94!  

Kind regards,

Kim

Hi Kim,

       we were lucky in as much as none of our family or friends has died from covid,  We have one friend who caught covid before the vaccines were available, she survived but suffered 'long' covid which took over a year to clear up.

  Many in the family have caught covid in the last 12 months. All have survived though they did experience varying degrees of illness but none serious.  Other than the younger children in the family I don't know anyone who has not been vaccinated.

  Great that your dad was able to get through it so well at 94, as did the Queen at 95, though I suspect she had more medical attention than your dad!

Rgds,

Aitch. 

Kimmy11

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:30pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:30pm

Mrmike wrote on Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:12pm:

On my grandmother's side we seem to have an immunity to Flu. My wife and I have had all our Covid Jabs and she also had the flu ones. So far we have been lucky loonies.

Hi Mrmike,

I've read some preliminary reports about certain blood types being more resistant to Covid-19 infection than others, but I'm waiting to see the results of a peer-reviewed study before I quote it.  As with the variations in susceptibility between different ethnic groups, scientific research into the cause and effect of Covid-19 will hopefully inform our understanding of the human condition beyond just our resilience, or otherwise, to coronaviruses 🤞

Stay safe,

Kim

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:45pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:45pm

aitchc1401 wrote on Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:09pm:

Hi Kim,

       we were lucky in as much as none of our family or friends has died from covid,  We have one friend who caught covid before the vaccines were available, she survived but suffered 'long' covid which took over a year to clear up.

  Many in the family have caught covid in the last 12 months. All have survived though they did experience varying degrees of illness but none serious.  Other than the younger children in the family I don't know anyone who has not been vaccinated.

  Great that your dad was able to get through it so well at 94, as did the Queen at 95, though I suspect she had more medical attention than your dad!

Rgds,

Aitch. 

Hi Aitch, 

We haven't caught Covid-19 (yet🤞) even though, like you, we know many who have.  It's concerning that the latest Omicron variants, BA.4 and BA.5, appear to be learning to evade the earlier vaccines, but like the UK, Spain is starting a further vaccination programme in the autumn, with adapted Pfizer and Moderna mRNA jabs, to protect against these more virulent strains - and I'll be happy to have it as soon as it's offered.  Dad will definitely be first in line - his biggest disappointment about catching Covid was missing his weekly gig (playing drums) at his local Country & Western club, and his daily nightcap of a Brandy and Lovage 😄

Stay safe,

Kim

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