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MichaelLaSiesta

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:08pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:08pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:08pm:

Hi MichaelLaSiesta,

"I suppose those with Residencia already will be feeling smug about things while for the many thousands of part timers like me it is now far less than easy."

I've had Residencia for 4 years and I'm not remotely smug.  What irritates me is those people who insist on blaming the EU and Spain for this disaster, when the blame sits solely with the UK government and the small majority of UK citizens who believed their lies.

Brexit has shattered the plans of many UK property owners in Spain and I feel sorry for those who didn't vote for it.

Kind regards, 

Kim

Sorry Kim, I should have said “some are feeling smug “,obviously not all.  I’ve seen some very unpleasant/unhelpful exchanges on various forums in the last  few weeks.  So many know it alls trying to assert their moral superiority over those less fortunate.

Residencia is not really my first choice at the moment and I don’t really mind the 90/180 thing, although it would be better if, for example, you could roll up your allocation into a continuous six month stay.  I’m retired and that would suit me fine.  Maybe that will be an option in time - who knows.

I really don’t get the reasoning behind 90 in, 90 out.  Which bumbling bureaucrat thought that one up?  What possible difference does it make?

begona

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:34pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:34pm

Can somebody help me because I read everything and every paper changes.   We like our son, who has a mental problem, to visit often usually 2/3 weeks at a time.  He would not outstay his 90 days.   This problem is who knows how he can travel from Uk/ Spain in future.   He went home in February on the first flight out.   He had to have a PCR test from Spain and 2 PCR tests and isolation in UK.    OK it is a lot of expense which we might have to continue with, so be it, but on top of this they say he needs the COVID vaccination and passport to travel along with PCR.   He is worried about the vaccination and is not sure.   Does that mean that the UK and Spain can legally enforce this ruling and stop a person like my son from visiting his parents?   If anybody understands the rules I would be grateful.Thank you.

Steve 2326

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:08pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:08pm

begona wrote on Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:34pm:

Can somebody help me because I read everything and every paper changes.   We like our son, who has a mental problem, to visit often usually 2/3 weeks at a time.  He would not outstay his 90 days.   This problem is who knows how he can travel from Uk/ Spain in future.   He went...

... home in February on the first flight out.   He had to have a PCR test from Spain and 2 PCR tests and isolation in UK.    OK it is a lot of expense which we might have to continue with, so be it, but on top of this they say he needs the COVID vaccination and passport to travel along with PCR.   He is worried about the vaccination and is not sure.   Does that mean that the UK and Spain can legally enforce this ruling and stop a person like my son from visiting his parents?   If anybody understands the rules I would be grateful.Thank you.

Unfortunately, nobody knows at the moment who, when or how we will be able to travel. From what I've read and heard on the news, the uk are in talks with the EU and other world countries about vaccine passports. Nothing has been said about when or if this will happen. It has also been said that Spain is hoping to come to some sort of agreement with the uk about opening up travel between both countries, but again they have specifically mentioned that it will be using a vaccine passport. If there is a medical reason why your son can't have it, then his doctor will / should issue a medical letter confirming the reason why, but this still won't guarantee entry. This was on a radio talk show that I was listening to last week. 

We can only hope that they will come to an agreement soon. 

I hope that you manage get get your son over quite soon. 

Alfapash

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:45pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:45pm

MichaelLaSiesta wrote on Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:08pm:

Sorry Kim, I should have said “some are feeling smug “,obviously not all.  I’ve seen some very unpleasant/unhelpful exchanges on various forums in the last  few weeks.  So many know it alls trying to assert their moral superiority over those less fortunate.

Residencia is not really my first choice at the moment and I don’t really mind the 90/180 thing, although it would be better if, for example, you could roll up your allocation into a continuous six month stay.  I’m retired and that would suit me fine.  Maybe that will be an option i...

...n time - who knows.

I really don’t get the reasoning behind 90 in, 90 out.  Which bumbling bureaucrat thought that one up?  What possible difference does it make?

Its not Spains fault the Uk voted out. There are a large number of people who wished thay hadn't and look at the mess with NI. How that is to be sorted out heavens only knows. Then many other things too long to mention.

Spain will always be popular with Brits, for 2 weeks holiday's. Its the holiday home owners who have come off badly. Why it can't be any 180 days in any one year is beyond me but that is the EU law. Holiday home owners like myself wanted to spend more time in Spain as retirement arrives, now it will be diffucult as you cannot go for the times you would like as as many of us who invested in Spain for many years, its now very dissapointing as we would be spending more of our cash in Spain. Maybe it will change in the future but as the EU and the Uk governments continue to play tit for tat with our lives its not looking good.

Not everyone was able to up sticks and get a residencia. Good luck to the folks who have, it's a big decision and not for everyone. I know of 1 couple that did get their residencia but have gone back to the UK as they missed their family too much. Its not all sun and sangria as many think it is.

cp

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:16pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:16pm

This is an interesting article for those who think that non resident overstayers will be able to continue staying on under the radar......


https://global247news.com/2021/03/09/spain-expects-to-deport-in-excess-of-500-brits-from-the-costa-del-sol-costa-blanca/amp/?fbclid=IwAR32LNRK3E3XZMrkd6cXZqGI1BJ77EEGPb5xvyN6pk5PKcDGJAb_l_KahW4



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Kimmy11

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:45pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:45pm

Interesting article, cp.  The only thing I'm surprised by is that the police think they're likely to detain and deport around 500 people - I would have expected the number to be higher 🤔

cp

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:03pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:03pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:45pm:

Interesting article, cp.  The only thing I'm surprised by is that the police think they're likely to detain and deport around 500 people - I would have expected the number to be higher 🤔

Me too!

Growing Old Disgracefully

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:13pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:13pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:45pm:

Interesting article, cp.  The only thing I'm surprised by is that the police think they're likely to detain and deport around 500 people - I would have expected the number to be higher 🤔

Maybe they simply expect many more to get the hell out of Dodge once they see their neighbours being arrested.

Alfapash

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:04am

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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:04am

Growing Old Disgracefully wrote on Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:13pm:

Maybe they simply expect many more to get the hell out of Dodge once they see their neighbours being arrested.

That article is in the main is talking about the criminals in certain areas, which they've know about for years and done nothing about, however, Border control will still be checking/ stamping passports for the average UK Jo who has a holiday home.

On the subject of of more nationalities replacing the UK for holiday homes, There will be some but many of the Scandinavian countries have much lower populations, Sweden 10 million, Denmark 10 million, Norway 5.5 milion that's only 25 million and the Uk is at least 68 million. Percentage wise that will not compensate for Brits.

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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:22pm

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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:22pm

Alfapash wrote on Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:04am:

That article is in the main is talking about the criminals in certain areas, which they've know about for years and done nothing about, however, Border control will still be checking/ stamping passports for the average UK Jo who has a holiday home.

On the subject of of more nationalities replacing the UK for holiday homes, There will be some but many of the Scandinavian countries have much lower populations, Sweden 10 million, Denmark 10 million, Norway 5.5 milion that's only 25 million and the Uk is at least 68 million. Percentage wise tha...

...t will not compensate for Brits.

I guess that just leaves us Irish with having to eat n drink twice as much ....... if that's possible lol.

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