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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:23am
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Spanish Air Force training planes overhead now has taken on a new edge after the La Manga crash this week. You wouldn’t feel as confident.

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:33am

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:33am

What can you expect from equipment manufactured in Spain (CASA C-101) and 40 years old? The pilot was a flight instructor until last year, so I doubt that this was a human failure.

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:16pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:16pm

Having been on a private club visit to the academy and going into the repair bays , the state of the prop trainers have to seen to be believed , they are very much past there sell by dates [ several times over ] .

In  a free rag it stated that the pilot was going to execute a manoeuvre called " zero speed "where the plane is suspended and then falls , the pilot is then supposed to regain control ..!!

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:48pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:48pm

Very sad the whole thing

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:53pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:53pm

Very interesting to hear a expert view on it. They don’t look fit for purpose so, no comfort to the poor pilot’s family but at least it was over water. Lotta people be looking up nervously so. 

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:15pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:15pm

Did he have time to eject ? 

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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:00pm

camionpilot wrote on Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:16pm:

Having been on a private club visit to the academy and going into the repair bays , the state of the prop trainers have to seen to be believed , they are very much past there sell by dates [ several times over ] .

In  a free rag it stated that the pilot was going to execute a manoeuvre called " zero speed "where the plane is suspended and then falls , the pilot is then supposed to regain control ..!!
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By zero speed, do you mean a deliberately induced stall? I had to practice this during flight training years ago, not a problem as long as you are high enough to start with. Do we know what height this plane was at?

Janet Isabella

Posted: Sun Sep 1, 2019 10:22am

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Posted: Sun Sep 1, 2019 10:22am

Despite being aware of the fatal crash of the jet plane, I'm not concerned with the prop powered trainers that travel up the coast sometimes and fly over the Torrevieja area.

They've been doing this, from my own personal experience for some 2 decades at least!

I do wonder why they come up here though and can only assume it's the wonderful view they would have of the Salinas and the La Mata lake 😉

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Posted: Sun Sep 1, 2019 4:17pm

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Posted: Sun Sep 1, 2019 4:17pm

And that is not so silly as it sounds …!!!!

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