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RobertBB

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:05am

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:05am

Cpop wrote on Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:01pm:

The number of houses available for sale have increased since the Covid outbreak, not just in Spain, but also in France, Italy and Slovenia, so my friends in those countries tell me. 

Reasoning is that many people in those countries own second homes, and if they cannot visit them due to lockdowns, why keep paying out for their upkeep? And some will be rental properties that can't be rented to holiday makers either, so they have gone up for sale....

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There are also owners of these properties that are resident in the UK, and who now cannot visit for more than 90 days at a time. Before Brexit they used to spend 6 months over the winter at their second home which will not be possible now.

I have another friend that lives on Pag in Croatia, which is desolate during winter, as the vast majority are holiday homes. I asked if there had been a spike in the number of apartments going up for sale, or have been sold, and he says no. Not being part of Schengen, the 90 day rule does not exist, but this does not seem to have had any effect on property demands.

Cpop, i tend to agree that the increase in houses for sale are due to locals selling up, certainly numbers will be swelled by this, as for the Balkans as an alternative its not someplace i would have thought about until the end of 2019 when we spent a few months in Bulgaria, was pretty good place  but Bulgaria is still schenegen, my son was in Montenegro and did also visit Croatia briefly, he thought Montenegro was great place, these certainly might be options for those looking for non schenegen holiday spots.

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:08pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:08pm

Robert BB. I've travelled extensively all over the Balkans and Central Europe, covering thousands of miles over the last 10 years.

Croatia is beautiful, both along the coastal roads and inland BUT the queues at the border to get in or out can be miles long. Just before Christmas my friend queued for 8 hours to get into Croatia from Slovenia, and 6 hours getting back out. That's the issue with being a non Schengen country surrounded by those in Schengen.

I retired  early to Spain (Brexit forced my hand) for the lifestyle and climate, and I'm glad I did. 

The only other place I seriously onsidered moving to was Albania, an interesting and  beautiful country. The language was not the problem,  but there were a few small issues that I am sure would become very annoying and frustrating very very quickly. It's a much maligned country, and so are the Albanians, who I always found to be friendly and very helpful (as I find the people here).

Of course living in Spain has its issues, but i just accept that things are done in the Spanish way, and I don't compare these to how the same things get done in the UK. Once I did, everything got easier to accept. Not perfect but I would not like to live anywhere else now.

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:51am

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:51am

I spoke to an estate agent last week, he told me he has a lot of clients desperate to come out , he's taking more enquiries than ever and he wasn't trying to sell me anything.

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:12am

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Paul wrote on Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:51am:

I spoke to an estate agent last week, he told me he has a lot of clients desperate to come out , he's taking more enquiries than ever and he wasn't trying to sell me anything.

Paul, did he happen to mention if the reason was the "B" word or virus related or mainly Brits or combination Brits and Spanish

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:14am

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:14am

Cpop wrote on Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:01pm:

The number of houses available for sale have increased since the Covid outbreak, not just in Spain, but also in France, Italy and Slovenia, so my friends in those countries tell me. 

Reasoning is that many people in those countries own second homes, and if they cannot visit them due to lockdowns, why keep paying out for their upkeep? And some will be rental properties that can't be rented to holiday makers either, so they have gone up for sale....

...

There are also owners of these properties that are resident in the UK, and who now cannot visit for more than 90 days at a time. Before Brexit they used to spend 6 months over the winter at their second home which will not be possible now.

I have another friend that lives on Pag in Croatia, which is desolate during winter, as the vast majority are holiday homes. I asked if there had been a spike in the number of apartments going up for sale, or have been sold, and he says no. Not being part of Schengen, the 90 day rule does not exist, but this does not seem to have had any effect on property demands.

I  am  one  people  who  have  decided  to  hold  buying  in   Spain   until  I  get  a  more  clearly  picture   of  the  new  world   we  will  all  be  living  in   after  Covid.  The  B  word  dors not directly  affect me  as  I  am  Irish,  but  reason  of  posting  here   is  the  Large  number of  Phone  calls  from People/Estate agents   looking    to  sell  me  a property   has  me  thinking   that  it  will  be  a  buyers market  .  In  fact  I  have blocked  a  few  number,   A  one  agents   who  I  called  back,  I  was told  he  had  move  pasturrs  greener, But  I  think   now  myself  it  will  be  Easter  2022  before  I  can  safely   travel   with  limited   restrictions,   So  Learn from yesterday live for today and hope for tomorrow 

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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:56am

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Your comments in reference to woman defy logic 

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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:40am

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Deleted_user_105855 wrote on Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:56am:

Your comments in reference to woman defy logic 

What  that  comment   doung  in   my  message  box,,  defy  logic  i  think 

Paul

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:21pm

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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:21pm

RobertBB wrote on Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:12am:

Paul, did he happen to mention if the reason was the "B" word or virus related or mainly Brits or combination Brits and Spanish

There were 2 reasons, one was the B word naturally as people are waiting for the dust to settle, the other reason is covid and people are just not travelling, he said his clients used to be 80% British but now there are as many Scandinavians, Belgian and Dutch clients, a big factor with EU nationals and one of the silver linings of the pandemic is the increase of remote working.  People with a EU passport have the right to live and work ánywhere in the block and with the growing trend to work from home it's become less important where home is so why not take advantage of cheaper house prices and better weather, even here in Monovar I know 2 Finns who have basically brought their work with them and it's all done online.

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:01am

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:01am

Paul wrote on Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:21pm:

There were 2 reasons, one was the B word naturally as people are waiting for the dust to settle, the other reason is covid and people are just not travelling, he said his clients used to be 80% British but now there are as many Scandinavians, Belgian and Dutch clients, a big factor with EU nation...

...als and one of the silver linings of the pandemic is the increase of remote working.  People with a EU passport have the right to live and work ánywhere in the block and with the growing trend to work from home it's become less important where home is so why not take advantage of cheaper house prices and better weather, even here in Monovar I know 2 Finns who have basically brought their work with them and it's all done online.

People  indeed  are  working  from  home  in  their  homeland,  Google,  Facebook and  some  more  of  Multinational  in  are  recalling  their  forgein  staff  back  to  Ireland,  something  to do with  Tax laws  that   I  know  nothing   about  Cooperate  Tax,  

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:28pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:28pm

Sligogent wrote on Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:01am:

People  indeed  are  working  from  home  in  their  homeland,  Google,  Facebook and  some  more  of  Multinational  in  are  recalling  their  forgein  staff  back  to  Ireland,&nb...

...sp; something  to do with  Tax laws  that   I  know  nothing   about  Cooperate  Tax,  

As well as the two Finns I know working from home here in Spain, I've been reminded of a travel agent working from home in Pinoso, so that's 3 I know with no research, I think it's quite common and a growing trend.

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