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GrahamLynn

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2021 11:17am

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Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2021 11:17am

All excellent points put forward by Cheryl, lots of good advice of things to think about when buying,  as well as finding the ideal location.

But even if you don’t look at the property as a long term investment, as I resident it is cheaper to live here than in the U.K., although I might change my mind on that since as I’ve just received my “new” electric bill and the cost has rocketed. 

We know it’s cheaper to holiday in Spain. So even factoring in the costs involved in purchasing a property, cost of utilities, taxes , travel expenses etc etc, It’s still far cheaper than having a staycation and having to fork out 8k for a caravan for week in Cornwall. 

Lynn

Purple gran

Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:25pm

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Posted: Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:25pm

Peter, an apology.  I popped along to Aldi earlier and the aroma when I came back outside was almost overwhelming.  I pity the poor souls about to fork out nearly 200k for the next development along that road.

PK, what I believe you need to take away from this discussion is, apart from one man’s meat being another mans poison, that you need to research, research, research. Make as many visits to the area as you can before deciding which area to choose, and, if possible, rent before you buy. There are far more properties on the market than there are buyers, especially since Brexit, so if you make the wrong decision it could take years for you to correct it.

I wish you good times and good fortune, you’re unlikely to regret the decision to move over here.

E.

Mrmike

Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 8:56am

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Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 8:56am

Purple gran wrote on Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:25pm:

Peter, an apology.  I popped along to Aldi earlier and the aroma when I came back outside was almost overwhelming.  I pity the poor souls about to fork out nearly 200k for the next development along that road.

PK, what I believe you need to take away from this discussion is, apart from one man’s meat being another mans poison, that you need to research, research, research. Make as many visits to the area as you can before deciding which area to choose, and, if possible, rent before you buy. There are...

... far more properties on the market than there are buyers, especially since Brexit, so if you make the wrong decision it could take years for you to correct it.

I wish you good times and good fortune, you’re unlikely to regret the decision to move over here.

E.

In what price range are you looking to buy? Once decided on an area, try and rent within that area for some months at least.

PK

Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 10:55am

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Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 10:55am

Purple gran wrote on Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:25pm:

Peter, an apology.  I popped along to Aldi earlier and the aroma when I came back outside was almost overwhelming.  I pity the poor souls about to fork out nearly 200k for the next development along that road.

PK, what I believe you need to take away from this discussion is, apart from one man’s meat being another mans poison, that you need to research, research, research. Make as many visits to the area as you can before deciding which area to choose, and, if possible, rent before you buy. There are...

... far more properties on the market than there are buyers, especially since Brexit, so if you make the wrong decision it could take years for you to correct it.

I wish you good times and good fortune, you’re unlikely to regret the decision to move over here.

E.

Thanks , I have had a number of trips that I have had to cancel (covid). But plan to make many visits before I make a decision. 

PK

Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 10:58am

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Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 10:58am

GrahamLynn wrote on Fri Sep 3, 2021 11:17am:

All excellent points put forward by Cheryl, lots of good advice of things to think about when buying,  as well as finding the ideal location.

But even if you don’t look at the property as a long term investment, as I resident it is cheaper to live here than in the U.K., although I might change my mind on that since as I’ve just received my “new” electric bill and the cost has rocketed. 
...

...

We know it’s cheaper to holiday in Spain. So even factoring in the costs involved in purchasing a property, cost of utilities, taxes , travel expenses etc etc, It’s still far cheaper than having a staycation and having to fork out 8k for a caravan for week in Cornwall. 

Lynn

Thanks Lynn

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PK

Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 11:02am

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Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 11:02am

Cheryl wrote on Fri Sep 3, 2021 10:25am:

There are many other things to consider such as how you will get from the airport and back. Will you be hiring a car or using public transport? If hiring a car, does the property have private or allocated parking because the closer you are to the beach, the worse it will be. Are you going to be p...

...repared to scrabble about under the hire car when you arrive, possibly in the dark, to take pictures to prove that dents were pre-existing and then go back to the terminal to ensure that damage is reported before you take the car? Unfortunately many people have been charged for damage in hard to see places that they are adamant they did not cause. If you are going to be a very regular visitor would it be worth buying a car to keep here? If so you need to make extra sure you are able to get it MOT'd (ITV) before it runs out because you can't drive it on the road without one, even if you only use it to get to the ITV station.

If using public transport how far is the bus stop from your property (dragging cases, tired from the journey etc) and will it be available for very early or late flights? How much will a taxi cost?

If you want to be within easy walking distance of bars and restaurants can you put up with the noise from them when you are trying to get to sleep? Unless you have top of the range double glazing the basic windows don't perform very well.

Some areas become like ghost towns in the winter.

The ongoing costs will include standing charges for water and electric, council tax (IBI), rubbish collection, community fees (if applicable), Non Resident Tax, TV and internet (switch on and off is available), property insurance and ongoing maintenance. This will be on top of 10% purchase tax.

Post Brexit you have to consider the time you spend in the whole Schengen area, a maximum of 90 days in a rolling 180 days.

A property can never really be considered an investment here, especially when you factor in all your costs over your ownership. In the UK there is a shortage of housing, in the tourist areas there are thousands of properties for sale at any time and can take months, if not years, to sell. Don't believe the estate agent signs saying they have more buyers than properties. You can't just rent your property for holiday lets to offset costs anymore because you need a Tourist Licence and getting one can range from a "right faff" to impossible.

I am not trying to put you off because there are so many people who enjoy their holiday homes for many years but the happiest will be those who fully understood the downsides before they purchased.


Thanks for all that Cheryl

PK

Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 11:11am

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Posted: Mon Sep 6, 2021 11:11am

Peter3473 wrote on Fri Sep 3, 2021 12:26am:

The urbanisation of El Paraiso is very close to the sewage treatment works and suffers from sewage smells often, it is certainly not the drains playing up! The roads I mentioned in my post I often walk (urbano Arregui) and during my walk I can smell the sewage treatment works, as said this is ear...

...ly morning, when I reach Calle José Hodar the sewage smell is not so bad on a good day. The El Paraiso urbanisation has a road bridge (Calle Mar Menor) spanning the N332 that leads to the Torrevieja Cemetery and just behind the cemetery is the Torrevieja sewage treatment plant, also this was the point I made about road noise. As for the Naufragos estate, I must admit I know of not, but I have used the Naufragos beach ( shipwreck beach) which is a fair distance from the sewage treatment plant many a time and occasionally have had a slight smell of the sewage works ( the way the wind blows) As you stated You can smell this unpleasant odour from time to time from the sewage works and if I am correct that you being closer to the seafront this may be due to tidal movements. Torrevieja is in my personal opinion a lovely friendly place to live, but unfortunately I did not do enough research when I purchased my property in September 2019, even at my age I learn something new every day and it’s good to talk and help others. Stay safe and healthy my friend/s. 

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Thank you Peter ,I'll bear all that in mind 

Grannyrose

Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2021 11:28am

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Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2021 11:28am

Torrevieja is a working town so you have all year round “life” as opposed to dedicated holiday areas. Most properties in the town will be apartments and all within walking distance to beaches and the town. There are numerous developments , some old and some new around the periphery of the town. Parking in the town can be difficult although many apartments have garages beneath. Know what you want. Do you want to live within walking distance of the coast? If you do, don’t even view further afield as it will only confuse you. Do you intend to have a car?  Make certain you will be able to park it effortlessly and safely. You will want to be within walking distance to facilities such as Bank, supermarket, dentist, optician, restaurants etc., A good bus service is advisable, perhaps not for you but should you decide to sell up, it’s a must for many people!  I would advise that you do not think about a bargain ! I’d steer clear if I were you. During your visit, carrying a note book, drive around and make a note of an area that appeals to you. Will you be bringing a dog with you? Dogs aren’t permitted on the beaches in general so you will want a good choice of walks.  Look for a decent sized plot. We all enjoy going out but spend a lot of time in our homes. You should look for a solarium on top of your home. We use ours in the wintertime and enjoy lying on loungers or relaxing and eating up there .Make sure you have privacy! You do not want neighbours watching your every movement. We have a retractable clothesline ( Brabantia) on our solarium and our laundry dries very quickly and no added cost of a tumble drier like at home.  Make certain you will be able to heat your new home. Try not to have stairs coming into your living room as that will make it difficult to heat during the cold winter nights. Allow money to install a heating system to allow for comfortable winter living.   Storage.    Gift goodness sake, make sure you can store all the added things we accumulate eg suitcases, Christmas tree, bicycles, deck chairs.  The list is endless. Make a check list out and tick off the houses/ apartments that fit your criteria. If and when you narrow a few properties down, visit at different times of the day and night to see what the area is like when people are home. Listen for noisy families and steer clear!  
Areas in Torrevieja that I’d recommend. definitely the La Mata side of The town. Great bus service, on the coast, stunning beach, lots of different properties from cheap to pricey. Your choice. If I were buying to live, I’ve seen some stunning houses that I could imagine us living in but the house we have is perfect for our needs as we only visit depending on our free time and family. Do your homework.  Don’t get carried away with somebody’s furniture... you can buy your own. Be wise and you won’t regret your move. 

Paulwps

Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2021 1:31pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2021 1:31pm

My advice, dont buy in torrevieja !

Just visit it, off season !

tebo53

Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2021 2:15pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2021 2:15pm

Paulwps wrote on Wed Sep 8, 2021 1:31pm:

My advice, dont buy in torrevieja !

Just visit it, off season !

I agree.

Steve 

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