Obtaining Permanent Residency

The date you became resident is the one registered on the system so this is the date they use.

Permanent residency is gained after 5 years.

Steve 

You may find these links helpful:

https://administracion.gob.es/pag_Home/en/Tu-espacio-europeo/derechos-obligaciones/ciudadanos/residencia/obtencion-residencia/residencia-permanente.html

https://www.expatica.com/es/moving/visas/spain-permanent-residence-163501/

Thank you to Paolo51, Steve & John. I also understand that’s what supposed to happen .. but I’ve read posts on here of people who have gone to renew TIE cards, that have been ‘Resudent’ for more than 5 years, but their TIE cards have not reached their 5 year date - and none have been successful in persuading the authorities to issue a 10 year card. I’m not sure if it was Kimmy that had printed out the legislation, in Spanish, to take with them to have a crack at it. So I’d like to know if anyone has actually been successful please, and if so, what did they do. Cheers everyone. Jill

The problem may be that they are still overwhelmed with issuing new TIE's and don't have the resources to prematurely issue permanent cards.

Why the hurry though, it's just a card and will make no difference whatsoever to your status as a permanent resident?

Thank you for your input, but there are benefits to having the permanent card - and with respect, you don’t know my personal circumstances that lead me to this. 

Should you need to prove permanent residency, you will still have that date on the copy of your original green residencia.  Although that card had to be given up on obtaining your TIE I presume you still have a copy as advised at the time.

Your card states that you were a resident pre WA  and the actual initial date of residency is embedded on the card and will show up when scanned by officials. But  absolutely anyone can see by glancing at your card can see you been resident for more than 4 years. 

But for your own peace of mind carry the copy of your  old green card with you. 

If you remember the very first batch of TIE’s to be issued had the wrong information printed on them, they were advised it didn’t matter what it said on the card it’s the information held on the computer record that counts. Those people were told to hold onto their cards as they were not automatically reissued. 

Thank you for the info.