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Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 9:31am
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sensei98

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Can anyone tell me the process of gaining a  residents permit in Spain , gaining a bank account, what documents are needed and time limits etc,

Also any costs involved?

This is for retirement purposes. 

marcliff

Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:08am

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Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:08am

A bit more information would be required before that can be answered. Are you a EU (including Irish) citizen or are you a 3rd country (including UK) citizen?

If EU then the process is simple and you can apply whilst in Spain to go on the registry of foreign EU nationals residing in Spain . Just have to prove an income of 600 euro per month and medical cover, either private or state.

If UK then it is much more complicated and expensive. You have to apply at a Spanish consulate in your own country. Prove an income of 28,800 euro per year for the first applicant and 7200 for each other member of the family. Show medical cover, either private of state, get a doctor certificate stating you have no communicable diseases or long term conditions that could impinge on the Spanish system and a Criminal Records certificate from the police. All to be translated, officially, into Spanish.

You then get a visa (you say for retirement so it would be a non lucrative visa) which allows you to come to Spain and apply for residency in the province you are going to live in within 3 months. 

Some have mentioned the total procedures can add up to around £3,000. 

That's about the basics of it all.

sensei98

Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:22am

sensei98

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Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:22am

marcliff wrote on Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:08am:

A bit more information would be required before that can be answered. Are you a EU (including Irish) citizen or are you a 3rd country (including UK) citizen?

If EU then the process is simple and you can apply whilst in Spain to go on the registry of foreign EU nationals residing in Spain . Just have to prove an income of 600 euro per month and medical cover, either private or state....

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If UK then it is much more complicated and expensive. You have to apply at a Spanish consulate in your own country. Prove an income of 28,800 euro per year for the first applicant and 7200 for each other member of the family. Show medical cover, either private of state, get a doctor certificate stating you have no communicable diseases or long term conditions that could impinge on the Spanish system and a Criminal Records certificate from the police. All to be translated, officially, into Spanish.

You then get a visa (you say for retirement so it would be a non lucrative visa) which allows you to come to Spain and apply for residency in the province you are going to live in within 3 months. 

Some have mentioned the total procedures can add up to around £3,000. 

That's about the basics of it all.

Hi, thank you for your quick response, maybe a little more info from me maybe helpful to get a more defined answer.

At present, I'm living and a resident in Germany, with my German wife, I have a UK passport!

I already have my pension from UK .

Thanks

marcliff

Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:46am

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Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:46am

If you have a permanent German resident card (after living there for more than 5 years) then I believe you can move and reside anywhere in the EU including Spain, and you can be issued a Spanish resident permit on that basis.

Doing it the other way (moving to Germany) the German government site states "If you hold an EU long-term residence permit issued by another EU Member State, a residence permit will be issued to you in Germany allowing you to work, study or undergo training here."

So I think it would work the other way around.

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sensei98

Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 3:59pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 3:59pm

marcliff wrote on Wed Jun 7, 2023 11:46am:

If you have a permanent German resident card (after living there for more than 5 years) then I believe you can move and reside anywhere in the EU including Spain, and you can be issued a Spanish resident permit on that basis.

Doing it the other way (moving to Germany) the German government site states "If you hold an EU long-term residence permit issued by another EU Member State, a residence permit will be issued to you in Germany allowing you to work, study or undergo training here."...

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So I think it would work the other way around.

Thanks a lot, appreciate it.

Kimmy11

Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 10:02pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 7, 2023 10:02pm

Hi sensei98,

Your Permanent residency status in Germany, protected by the Withdrawal Agreement, does not give you an automatic right to move to and live in Spain (or anywhere else in the EU) without applying for Spanish residency.  It's supposed to be easier to obtain residency in another EU country if you've already acquired permanent residency in one EU country, but it's the country you want to move to that sets its own residency rules.  As an EU citizen, your wife can move to Spain and apply for registration on the Foreigners' list from here, and you can also apply for a residence card as a family member of a EU citizen.

Kind regards,

Kim

sensei98

Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 8:33am

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Posted: Thu Jun 8, 2023 8:33am

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Jun 7, 2023 10:02pm:

Hi sensei98,

Your Permanent residency status in Germany, protected by the Withdrawal Agreement, does not give you an automatic right to move to and live in Spain (or anywhere else in the EU) without applying for Spanish residency.  It's supposed to be easier to obtain residency in another EU country if y...

...ou've already acquired permanent residency in one EU country, but it's the country you want to move to that sets its own residency rules.  As an EU citizen, your wife can move to Spain and apply for registration on the Foreigners' list from here, and you can also apply for a residence card as a family member of a EU citizen.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thank you

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