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Is it worth reporting dangerous driving to the Police?

Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 8:13am
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While cycling a car coming from the opposite direction thought it was perfectly acceptable to move on to my side of the road and overtake a car and pass me at the same time. Passing me within the 1.5 metres that should be allowed, not to mention causing me great alarm. A very dangerous manoeuvre because he felt it unnecessary to wait the 5 seconds before carrying the overtake safely after I had passed. I have a rear video of the incident and here are some pictures. I was just wondering if I would be wasting my time going to the police with the evidence?

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 9:26am

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 9:26am

Not obliterating the license plate can be considered as an offense of privacy rulings, I say "can" because the use of dash cams is not quite clear. So, better not awaken sleeping dogs.

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 6:19pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 6:19pm

RayD....Judge & jury....out.

My opinion. Not worth the time (&hastle) for a denuncia

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 6:27pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 6:27pm

This post that was quoted has been deleted.

I was just looking for advice on whether this was worth pursuing with the police, not a critique. I wouldn’t usually bother to espouse a reply, however, for the benefit of accuracy.

I am not trying to be rude bit, but I am not sure whether it is your perception of width, ignorance of the 1.5 MINIMUM pass of cyclists law or just plain flaunting of  the law that leads you to your conclusions? If a cyclist can reach out with an outstretched arm and touch you as you pass, you are less than half the 1.5 metres you should allow. If I had stretched my arm out the whole of my palm would have been hit by the car, so approximately .7 metres was allowed.  You should allow double the length of a persons outstretched arm as you pass a cyclist.  Depending on the wind direction and speed of the oncoming vehicle (probably 80-90kph in this case) , such an overtake in a vehicle from the other direction  can also cause more air turbulence and lead to a cyclist being blown into a hazard (pothole, flints).

There is no cycle lane on the left! I was cycling along the white line as the right side of the white line contained numerous potholes and flints that tend to result in punctures. Had I been cycling on the hazardous  side of the line then I would have been weaving about! I am pretty sure you wouldn’t drive your car over the hazardous side of the white line, so I hope you  don’t  think I should cycle in it.

Fortunately, your definition, and that of the vast majority of road users and the legal definition of “nowhere near”  is completely different. In my experience of cycling that same stretch of road literally hundreds of times is that 99% of drivers do not make that pass, even when travelling in the same direction as me!

In certain circumstances, I  don’t have a problem with being passed at SLOW speeds at say a 1 metre gap by cars travelling in the same direction.  It is a case of sensibly sharing the road and we all need to try and get along.

My rear view camera doesn’t really capture the full horror of the manoeuvre.  Here’s a view from a front camera that happened  in the UK to another cyclist from my club. This footage was forwarded to the Operation Crackdown team who informed my friend they would be prosecuting the car driver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO2q8QPOyo0&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR20HfR2_Xo1CWadkg_PRM1sWLyjqPS_wDj0dwR3vDQu6-ySQlhbQ40vcRk

Thanks for the input of you other 2 Forumites. 

 
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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 7:51pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 7:51pm

Potholes and flints are no excuse for biking along the white line. Cars on the road and bikes in the bike lane. If I drive my car on the white line I'd probably get a fine. Tend to agree with Ray, from your pictures I don't see what the problem is. 

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 8:26pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2019 8:26pm

Why do you need to comment with incorrect observations? I thought the idea of the forum was to help offer advice on questions asked, not criticize without reading the facts. 

Just to make it clear again, it is NOT a bike lane, as I pointed out in my response. Do you drive your car on the right hand side of the white line? It is the equivalent of a small UK hard shoulder. 

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Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2019 8:44am

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Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2019 8:44am

 Under EU traffic law the advisory, “edge of the road/carriageway markings” i.e.: solid white lines have been painted there by someone for a reason. That is to mark the edge of the road whether or not there is a pavement or shoulder.

Vehicles (does not stipulate motor vehicles) should not cross these lines. 

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Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2019 9:52am

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Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2019 9:52am

I am not huffy in the slightest about this, sorry if the response appears so, As I stated for the benefit of future reference I want to make sure the facts are correct.

As with your initial response you again make more incorrect assumptions and admit you guess in your response. 

Your aspersions that I have a prerequisite for replies is incorrect. I am grateful to Killjoy who highlighted an area I hadn’t considered and Villas for his advice and clarification of the law. As such, I achieved what I wanted and following their guidance, I also think it would be a waste of time to pursue this.

I don’t understand the relevance of guessing the width of the road, as I clearly stated the pass was around .7 metres from my shoulder. In my opinion, when you take into account my body width cycling on the white line, picture 1 clearly shows the closeness of the pass and definitely nowhere near 1.5 metres.

You state you know the law, yet you incorrectly refer to the edge of carriageway marking as a cycle track. To be classified as a cycle path/track and subject to the regulations that govern their use, it would be marked as a cycle lane/track. This road isn’t marked as a cycle track because it isn’t a cycle track, hence I was cycling on the white line.

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Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2019 10:24am

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Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2019 10:24am

"To be classified as a cycle path/track and subject to the regulations that govern their use, it would be marked as a cycle lane/track. This road isn’t marked as a cycle track because it isn’t a cycle track, hence I was cycling on the white line."

I agree.

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