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John 52 wrote on Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:43am:
Well nobody is getting 2 x90 days this year
Your thinking about it the wrong way.
Here is the official explanation:
The 180-day period keeps rolling. Therefore, anytime you wish to enter the Schengen, you just have to count backwards the last 180 days, and see if you have been present in the Schengen for more than 90 days throughout that period.
Steve
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:12am
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Dazz wrote on Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:56am:
A little too simplistic. The 90 days doesn't start at the beginning of the year, it starts from the time you enter the Schengen zone. So it could start April 22nd if that was your first day.
If you take your example and stayed for 90 days until the end of June, you could then stay another 90 days starting on July 1st, which would mean you've stayed 180 days in a 180 day period. In reality you shouldn't return for 90 days after the end of June....
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The way I look at is that you have 90 days in and 90 days out, for every day you spend in the zone you need to spend a day out of it (you could substitute day for week or month), starting from whenever you entered the zone.
I know I've taken your example to the extreme and no one would actually do that, I am just trying to explain how it works in my head 😁
Thanks for that explanation ,if there has to be a 90 day gap from the date of the last day of your previous 90 day stay the later in the year you finish your first 90 day stay ,the less chance you have of completing your 2nd 90 day stay ,and if that's the case I may incur problems when I visit Spain in November as there is certainly not a 90 day gap
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:13am
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John 52 wrote on Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:12am:
Thanks for that explanation ,if there has to be a 90 day gap from the date of the last day of your previous 90 day stay the later in the year you finish your first 90 day stay ,the less chance you have of completing your 2nd 90 day stay ,and if that's the case I may incur problems when I visit Sp...
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...ain in November as there is certainly not a 90 day gap
Apologies it should have read October instead of November
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:19pm
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John 52 wrote on Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:12am:
Thanks for that explanation ,if there has to be a 90 day gap from the date of the last day of your previous 90 day stay the later in the year you finish your first 90 day stay ,the less chance you have of completing your 2nd 90 day stay ,and if that's the case I may incur problems when I visit Sp...
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...ain in November as there is certainly not a 90 day gap
If I read this correctly, it doesn't matter when you start your 90 day stay, it's not counted in calendar years, it's a rolling 180 day period, so it could start in May, June, November etc.
If you were here for 90 days and are coming back in October before your 90 days away have run their course, then yes it could be a problem with immigration when you arrive.
How long were you here for? When did you arrive and when did you leave?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:38am
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Dazz wrote on Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:19pm:
If I read this correctly, it doesn't matter when you start your 90 day stay, it's not counted in calendar years, it's a rolling 180 day period, so it could start in May, June, November etc.
If you were here for 90 days and are coming back in October before your 90 days away have run their course, then yes it could be a problem with immigration when you arrive.
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How long were you here for? When did you arrive and when did you leave?
Morning ,if my reading of your explanation is correct ,when your 90 day period ends ,whenever, you have to be out the schengen area for 90 days before you can return, this is what I originally thought ,my original booking was 21 November, we left Schengen area on 11 August ,having spent 82days via France .My situation will test the cooperation between France and Spain as having driven from UK to Spain only checks were via France
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Anyone still think it the B word was a good idea?
Paul wrote on Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:35pm:
Anyone still think it the B word was a good idea?
That subject has been flogged to death!!!!!!!
It's done now, live with it.......
Steve
tebo53 wrote on Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:18pm:
That subject has been flogged to death!!!!!!!
It's done now, live with it.......
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Steve
We had 40 years of the tabloids banging on about the curvature of bananas and other such made up nonsense, we do have to live with it but you can expect us to keep pointing out what a stupid mistake we've made.
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:06pm
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Paul wrote on Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:25pm:
We had 40 years of the tabloids banging on about the curvature of bananas and other such made up nonsense, we do have to live with it but you can expect us to keep pointing out what a stupid mistake we've made.
I'm so bored with this subject now.
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