France blocks plans to scrap 90-day rule visa rule - Page 3

That's looking at things purely from a UK/EU perspective. There are many, many countries where their citizens can stay in UK for up to 6 months in one but only allow UK citizens to stay for a maximum of 3 months without a visa at a time and they include Commonwealth countries.

If UK announced EU citizens can only stay 3 months, would they do the same for US citizens, for example?  

I feel we are falling into the trap of thinking UK is being punished for some reason when the same rules apply to every country that can travel visa free. 

I copied the report from the Connexion paper and posted it on the original post about the proposal made by the French Senator. Maybe read that before reading the Olive press or the Daily mail.

The world is going through divide and conquer culture at present by nearly every terrible power crazed governments on the planet. Its disgusting, pitting people against each other, in various guise's. People need to wake up to what's happening.

I agree completely but most seem to be walking around with their eyes and ears closed. Covid was a test and in general the west failed so the globalists know they can do pretty much as they like and no one will stop them.

What a brainless post

Yes. I don’t think that Canadians, Australians etc who have worked hard (not down the pub every night), saved, taken financial risks, invested their money in another country to achieve a lifelong ambition should be treated any differently to Brits. It is not right that Brits should be given preference over any other non EU country.

The law was proposed by the French, probably based on the fact that the largest proportion of second homes are owned by British people. From an article in the Times last year :

quote:

Britons still make up the largest number of foreign second homeowners in France at 27 per cent, followed by Italians and Belgians (both 12 per cent), Swiss (11 per cent), Germans (8 per cent), Dutch (7 per cent), and Spanish (4 per cent), according to the French National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies.Jul 22, 2023

unquote.

 After the British all the other countries mentioned are EU. Thereafter the combined total of all the rest - other EU countries plus Americans, Canadians, Australians, etc, hard working and teetotal or not, do not hold anywhere near the number of homes that the Brirish own.

So I imagine the French were thinking of how much more money the revised law would bring in to France not worrying about all the other third countries, rightly or wrongly.

Aitch.

At 92 years of age and a 40 year ownership of a property in Moraira which I have regularly visited for 4 months each year,.  I not only have a wish that the 90 day rule did not exist, but clearly my contribution to the local economy will have to be less since I cant be there  -  it is as simple as that..  It is my view that Spain will ultimately go it alone in rescinding the 90 day rule  -  the decline  on their economy will force them to do so. 

As to why I voted to leave the union   -  I have seen the comparative national pension fund legislation throughout Europe and see no reason why the UK should continue to support France and Belgium for instance with an actual retirement ages of 58 years whilst the UK is 63 years . This is totally unfair on the UK taxpayer who not only would have had to continue  subsidising  these the grossly generous pensions , but also under- .write the ultimate bankruptcy of these countries when they find they don't have the money to honour their commitments to their own nationals .  The present industrial action in France fully demonstrates, dare I say YET AGAIN,  their total disregard and interest in the  inconveniences to to their  fellow  union members , BUT  choose to make difficulties for the innocent public at large , rather than resolve it with negotiation within their own hands.

I find this sort of selfish attitude an abhorrent and I never regret taking the decision to leave  Brummie  Alan     

There is no cross subsidy for pension arrangements, not sure where you got this idea from. Each country in the EU funds their own arrangements and decides their own income tax, other taxes, and duties  on things like tobacco, fuel and alcohol, their own systems of healthcare and education. It is primarily a trading bloc with common trading rules. Pension ages are going up everywhere, the UK is now 66 and Belgium is moving to 65. France is trying to move it back too.

Thank you for this information of which I was unaware  -  I apologise for perhaps thinking it was a material factor in relation to the huge sums that the likes of Germany and the UK have  had to pay.    -  all without being able to get auditors approval of their accounts from the start.!!!

However it doesn't alter my decision to leave since I also found it  unacceptable by   the  Brussel's set up paying such high salaries , and enjoying a monthly " jolly " away from Brussels itself  

M thanks again for helping me to understand these intricate rules 

Brummie  Alan

You see, that's another thing that was taken out of context. EU accounts have been audited every year and signed off for the last 18 years. The mistakes in the entire EU budget has been shown to be less than that in the UK DWP department alone. Thing is, social media has a lot to answer for by saying things like they've never been audited which is an out and out lie.

Full fact states: "There were errors noted at the start in 1995 but have improved since. The accounts have been audited and shown to be accurate since 2007 and have been completely error free in the last accounting year".

The EU is not perfect but social media and some of the UK press tend to pick up on something and then exaggerate it to the hilt. 

Thankfully it's not much of a talking point among Spaniards and you rarely get any mention of UK leaving in the Spanish press. Certainly nowhere near as much as the UK press does as if they can't quite believe what happened.