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DUI

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:45am

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:45am

Villau1 wrote on Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:21am:

Here we go again. Another clever remainer accusing a brexiteer of being gullible I.e. thick. I am perfectly aware of what the Schengen Agreement is and I was replying to another poster who didn’t appear to. I am also well aware that the absurd 90 rule is nothing to do with Schengen, but is &nbs...

...p;another ex EU beaurocratic nonsense, that has cost EU countries €millions. I personally researched the various aspects of EU membership and I voted to leave. Anyone who voted to remain is quite entitled to a different opinion  than mine. We have both hopefully researched the subject and not been influenced by the media or politicians who usually look after themselves.

Problem for me is the fact that brexit has delivered nothing positive.I knew that it was only for fools and billionaires and tried telling as many people as I could but here we are and the disaster keeps on unfolding.

Shannon2020

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:06am

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:06am

Col62 wrote on Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:37pm:

I’m not sure if replying or seeking advice but as someone wanting to buy a property in Spain I understand schengen applies but does or can residency start on purchase and how long does it take until Schengen does  not affect me ..eg  I’m now a resident  hope makes sense 

Best start another thread. It’s off into bickering here. 

Rob60

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:34am

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:34am

Shannon2020 wrote on Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:06am:

Best start another thread. It’s off into bickering here. 

I think they should keep it going. A frank exchange of views is always entertaining don't you find??

Shannon2020

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:10am

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:10am

Rob60 wrote on Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:34am:

I think they should keep it going. A frank exchange of views is always entertaining don't you find??

It does for a while… and then it becomes tedious. However,  I was responding to the guy who was looking for legit advice….

Chances are this thread will keep going…..

GordonH605

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:27am

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:27am

DUI wrote on Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:45am:

Problem for me is the fact that brexit has delivered nothing positive.I knew that it was only for fools and billionaires and tried telling as many people as I could but here we are and the disaster keeps on unfolding.

Do tell us which of the many current disasters have been caused by Brexit.  Not being able to stay in Spain for as long as you like is hardly a disaster. Paying Spanish customs charges on goods ordered from the UK isn't either.

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ericb

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:28pm

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:28pm

DUI wrote on Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:45am:

Problem for me is the fact that brexit has delivered nothing positive.I knew that it was only for fools and billionaires and tried telling as many people as I could but here we are and the disaster keeps on unfolding.

All I can say to the Brexiteers is that Brexit has cost my business literally hundreds of thousands of pounds and resulted in me registering an EU company, reducing my UK workforce and employing people in the EU. 
My Companies are now also paying taxes in the EU which would otherwise have been paid to the UK exchequer. By the way, the UK government actually advised this course of action for exporters!!!! Another great Brexit benefit! The EU is far from perfect but neither is the UK. We should have been leading from within!

GordonH605

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:46pm

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:46pm

ericb wrote on Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:28pm:

All I can say to the Brexiteers is that Brexit has cost my business literally hundreds of thousands of pounds and resulted in me registering an EU company, reducing my UK workforce and employing people in the EU. 
My Companies are now also paying taxes in the EU which would otherwise have...

... been paid to the UK exchequer. By the way, the UK government actually advised this course of action for exporters!!!! Another great Brexit benefit! The EU is far from perfect but neither is the UK. We should have been leading from within!

In my view it was the EU's refusal to consider the reforms proposed by David Cameron that led to the referendum and the result.  There was never any possibility of the UK 'leading from within' with Germany and France having the EU nicely set up to suit themselves.  

Keymcuk

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:15pm

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:15pm

As there was actually questions at the end of your post I will give the benefit of the doubt to you and assume you want answers.

In answer to the purpose of Schengen it is to provide free movement without visas between countries that are signed up to to the agreement. There are members of schengen that are not in the EU and members of the EU that aren't members of schengen.

The UK was never been a member of schengen which is why you have always had to show your passport when entering or exiting the schengen area. 

I hope this helps. 

In answer to your second question as there is no way of knowing how you voted in the 2016 referendum and as all non members of the EU (that arent members of Schengen) are treated  the same there is no spite in not allowing you to enter the schengen area without the correct visa. 

I should also point out that people who didn't vote to leave the EU now have the same restrictions put upon them, not by the EU but by people such as yourself who obviously didn't think these things through thoroughly before voting. (You may say you thought it through but, you have ,6 years later had to ask for an explanation of Schengen, which would suggest that either,  you didn't think it through or you're not bright enough to understand what it meant). 

I do hope this answers both of your questions if you have any more issues regarding brexit please feel free to ask further I'd be more than happy to explain the plethora of other things you no longer have access to.

GordonH605

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:40pm

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:40pm

Keymcuk wrote on Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:15pm:

As there was actually questions at the end of your post I will give the benefit of the doubt to you and assume you want answers.

In answer to the purpose of Schengen it is to provide free movement without visas between countries that are signed up to to the agreement. There are members of schengen that are not in the EU and members of the EU that aren't members of schengen....

...

The UK was never been a member of schengen which is why you have always had to show your passport when entering or exiting the schengen area. 

I hope this helps. 

In answer to your second question as there is no way of knowing how you voted in the 2016 referendum and as all non members of the EU (that arent members of Schengen) are treated  the same there is no spite in not allowing you to enter the schengen area without the correct visa. 

I should also point out that people who didn't vote to leave the EU now have the same restrictions put upon them, not by the EU but by people such as yourself who obviously didn't think these things through thoroughly before voting. (You may say you thought it through but, you have ,6 years later had to ask for an explanation of Schengen, which would suggest that either,  you didn't think it through or you're not bright enough to understand what it meant). 

I do hope this answers both of your questions if you have any more issues regarding brexit please feel free to ask further I'd be more than happy to explain the plethora of other things you no longer have access to.

'you're not bright enough to understand what it meant'.  It's amazing that even considered posts like this from Remainers have to resort to personal insults before they're finished. Saying  'you didn't understand what it meant' would have been quite enough to make your point, without being insulting.  If Remainers would only put the same amount of time and effort into moving on and adapting to new circumstances as they do into moaning that they didn't get their own way, we'd all be a lot better off.

Keymcuk

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:10pm

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:10pm

There was the other option of them not thinking it through but I guess you assumed that the latter rather than the former choice was more apt in this case. I didn't say that.

With regard to remainers moving on, first of all you have no idea on how or if I voted in the 2016 referendum and secondly the guy who started this post himself said that he voted to leave the EU. So surely he needs to move on. I was mearly answering his questions.

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