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Richard62

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:27pm

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Location: Villamartin

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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:27pm

You said it all . You supported the decision to leave and now we ALL have to live with the conseq

gerardwilkie

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:29pm

gerardwilkie

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Location: El Campello

Joined: 2 Jul 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:29pm

You vote for Brexit = you live with the consequences. 

I really hate to sound so blunt but this clearly is a case of 'told you so'.

LeoMac7

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:45pm

Posts: 49

32 helpful points

Location: La Marina

Joined: 20 Jul 2019

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:45pm

OldSalt wrote on Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:02pm:

Oh dear dear me. It's so so terrible to join the third world. It's horrible to be put in the same group as the US, Australia,NZ,Canada, Japan and, if my math is correct, another 196 countries(based on entities classed as countries by the UN. How dare they. After we are British and should get spec...

...ial treatment.

I seriously think a lot of people need to get a grip and grow up

WE were part of Europe and they are our closest neighbours and No I did not vote for it!

Col62

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:37pm

Posts: 21

Location: La Florida

Joined: 22 Feb 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:37pm

I’m not sure if replying or seeking advice but as someone wanting to buy a property in Spain I understand schengen applies but does or can residency start on purchase and how long does it take until Schengen does  not affect me ..eg  I’m now a resident  hope makes sense 

DUI

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:43pm

DUI

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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:43pm

alan brummie wrote on Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:50am:

Hi Folks  -  I have owned a villa in Moraira for over 35 years ,and visited from Bournemouth, where I am a resident , several times a year as and when it suited me or when flight fares were particularly cheap.    So I was a regular visitor spending cash in restaurants, shops a...

...nd with builders etc to support the local Spanish  community.

Up until now I have always been welcomed and it was a practice benefitting both parties

NOW, I wish to continue this , BUT I am restricted to 90 days or whatever by the complicated and time wasting "SCHENEGEN"  arrangement !!

I can't see the purpose behind this stupid arrangement since apart from controlling my movements,  it reduces the contribution I can make to the Moraira market place?Can some enlightened person explain to me what purpose is achieved  by " Schengen "  ?? Or is it simply spite as I supported the UK decision to leave the likely bankrupt European Union  ??

Just wasted ten minutes reading the full thread.Oh dear,the old it’s not fair refrain.You voted for it,suck it up and feel sorry for those that didn’t vote for it and are equally restricted by it.I read your age and I nearly felt sorry for you because the world has changed around you and you appear to have not changed.Brexit was only ever for  fools and billionaires,look what’s happening in the UK as we speak.The EU will continue to thrive,the UK is up a particularly smelly creek.

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Col62

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:58pm

Posts: 21

Location: La Florida

Joined: 22 Feb 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:58pm

Richard62 wrote on Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:27pm:

You said it all . You supported the decision to leave and now we ALL have to live with the conseq

I’ve heard of a win  win situation but never a lose lose situation

I don’t buy in Spain and I don’t support or grow their economy 

Very odd 

Col62

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:59pm

Posts: 21

Location: La Florida

Joined: 22 Feb 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:59pm

Col62 wrote on Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:58pm:

I’ve heard of a win  win situation but never a lose lose situation

I don’t buy in Spain and I don’t support or grow their economy 

Very odd 

So do I buy elsewhere ??

Kimmy11

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:02pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:02pm

alan brummie wrote on Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:50am:

Hi Folks  -  I have owned a villa in Moraira for over 35 years ,and visited from Bournemouth, where I am a resident , several times a year as and when it suited me or when flight fares were particularly cheap.    So I was a regular visitor spending cash in restaurants, shops a...

...nd with builders etc to support the local Spanish  community.

Up until now I have always been welcomed and it was a practice benefitting both parties

NOW, I wish to continue this , BUT I am restricted to 90 days or whatever by the complicated and time wasting "SCHENEGEN"  arrangement !!

I can't see the purpose behind this stupid arrangement since apart from controlling my movements,  it reduces the contribution I can make to the Moraira market place?Can some enlightened person explain to me what purpose is achieved  by " Schengen "  ?? Or is it simply spite as I supported the UK decision to leave the likely bankrupt European Union  ??

Hi Alan,

You were always restricted to 90 days stay in Spain - even when the UK was a member of the EU, you were supposed to apply for a "Certificate of Registration" to exceed 90 days in one trip. 

Far from Spain being spiteful, they ignored their own residency laws to accommodate the "swallows" from other EU countries, so long as you didn't exceed 182 days (6 months), as that would make you tax resident in Spain by default.

It's interesting that you say you knew what you voted for, when you clearly didn't know what you already had and didn't appreciate the blind-eye turned by Spain to you exceeding their residency laws.  At least now you know what the rules are and even though you don't like them, they are what you voted for.

Regards,

Kim

ericb

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:20pm

Posts: 3

11 helpful points

Location: Moraira

Joined: 5 Sep 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:20pm

I’m sorry to to say that like many people who misguidedly voted for Brexit you have unfortunately been misinformed. The 90 day rule has nothing to do with the Shengen area which is a group of countries ( not the whole EU) which have agreed to movement without passports being needed. This is not the same as the free movement between all EU countries. The 90 day rule applies to visiting “third countries” whether that is the U.S. Australia or elsewhere. In fact some countries require a visa which limits a stay to 30 days or less. 
I don’t understand why some people voted to leave the club but still feel they should be able to enjoy the benefits. I don’t mean any offence but the misunderstandings, misinformation and downright lies which were foisted on a gullible public regarding Brexit make me very sad. I am of course a staunch remainer. 

Villau1

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:21am

Posts: 29

15 helpful points

Location: Campoamor

Joined: 25 Jun 2017

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:21am

ericb wrote on Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:20pm:

I’m sorry to to say that like many people who misguidedly voted for Brexit you have unfortunately been misinformed. The 90 day rule has nothing to do with the Shengen area which is a group of countries ( not the whole EU) which have agreed to movement without passports being needed. This is not...

... the same as the free movement between all EU countries. The 90 day rule applies to visiting “third countries” whether that is the U.S. Australia or elsewhere. In fact some countries require a visa which limits a stay to 30 days or less. 
I don’t understand why some people voted to leave the club but still feel they should be able to enjoy the benefits. I don’t mean any offence but the misunderstandings, misinformation and downright lies which were foisted on a gullible public regarding Brexit make me very sad. I am of course a staunch remainer. 

Here we go again. Another clever remainer accusing a brexiteer of being gullible I.e. thick. I am perfectly aware of what the Schengen Agreement is and I was replying to another poster who didn’t appear to. I am also well aware that the absurd 90 rule is nothing to do with Schengen, but is  another ex EU beaurocratic nonsense, that has cost EU countries €millions. I personally researched the various aspects of EU membership and I voted to leave. Anyone who voted to remain is quite entitled to a different opinion  than mine. We have both hopefully researched the subject and not been influenced by the media or politicians who usually look after themselves.

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