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Where should we explore if we want to consider living on the Costa Blanca?

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:53pm
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ANDERSIM65

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Ok - first off, we are married couple M58 F51(kids all grown up and living their own lives) planning to retire and move out to Spain (c) Q4 2024/Q1 2025, so are starting to plan where we might like to be located.

Ideally, we would like to be somewhere that is typically Spannish, or at least isn't massively touristy.  By that, I don't mean no tourists at all as I imagine thats all but impossible on a Spanish costa, but more somewhere that has retained its Spannish identity.  

E.G Last June we were in Cambrils, Costa Dorada - what we liked about it was, it seemed very Spanish in that there was a distinct lack of Sports Bars, Karaoke Bars, Fast Food Restaurants (there was one obligatory McDonalds on the front, but that was it, as far as we could see).  If you wanted that kind of thing, you could easily get to Salou via ferry or bus. The retaurants on the front were perhaps more geared towards tourists with the usual toutes trying to persuade you to eat in their restaurants.  Still, the food on offer was very much geared towards Fish dishes and typical tapas type dishes.  Further in, it was definately more geared to the locals with no hassle and menus in Spanish on blackboards in the bar areas etc.  There were a handful of what you might call souvenir shops, but generally most shops were catering for the local population.  We also liked the fact that it was fairly flat (for walking about) and not high rise.  There were local Buses that ran up and down the coast, the Ferries from the marina,, plenty of taxis and a train station (for travelling further afield) - so maybe similar transport links are also a requirement?

The main drawbacks of Cambrils were, non-availability of flights (to Reus) in the winter months (Oct-March) meaning if you wanted to (say) go to the UK for Christmas,  you'd have to fly to/from Barcelona and commute by train to Cambrils ((c) 2 hrs) and the winters were (as reported by people we had met) quite cold, with it being located further north.

Someone recommended looking at Costa Blanca (South or North) given its better year round climate and more frequent all year round flight availability from both Alicante and San Javier.

Now neither of us have been to the Costa Blanca recently - my last visit was in the 1980's, so obviously things will have changed a lot.  We are planning to visit next year, probably in early October for 10-14 days to explore the area - possibly splitting our time between the South and the North.

Clearly, we are not going to be able to visit everywhere, which is where, hopefully this forum can help with suggestions of some places to visit.  Our plan is either to commute to/from a convenient cental(ish) base to explore the North & South  (rented or hotel), or spend 2/3 days in each area using B&Bs - hopefilly there will be breasonable availability in early October.

We are not bothered about being right on the sea front, though would like to be within easy reach.  Its unlikely we would have a car (initially at least) so convenience to amenities, shops, bars and restaurants - via walking or public transport would be desirable though not a deal breaker for the right area. 

We started by looking at coastal areas on the internet - its a long list:  Moraria, Javea, Denia, Altea, Santa Pola, Guardamar del Degura, Pilar/Torre de la Horada, Santiago de la Ribera & Los Alcazares.

Please feel free to comment, ask for more info and add to / subtract from these - any assistance/suggestions at all would be very welcome

Thank you

Ian & Emma

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:20pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:20pm

Of course this is all very subjective, but you should check out Oliva, Denia, and Javea, the last being one of my favourite places on the Costa Blanca north, its got everything. Moraira is a nice place but very seasonal.

We chose a small village some 10/12 km from the coast (Adsubia) and lucked out because its a lovely place to live with a nice mix of Spanish and ex pats from all areas of Europe. Public transport is virtually non existent here, though, so a car is a neccessity. Things are better in and between the coastal towns.

ANDERSIM65

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:20pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:20pm

Herefordjack wrote on Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:20pm:

Of course this is all very subjective, but you should check out Oliva, Denia, and Javea, the last being one of my favourite places on the Costa Blanca north, its got everything. Moraira is a nice place but very seasonal.

We chose a small village some 10/12 km from the coast (Adsubia) and lucked out because its a lovely place to live with a nice mix of Spanish and ex pats from all areas of Europe. Public transport is virtually non existent here, though, so a car is a neccessity. Things are better in and between th...

...e coastal towns.

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Thanks for the quick reply - Denia & Javea certainly get good reviews - Had not heared of Oliva, so will check that out - so thanks for that.  There ceretainly seems to be a bias towards the North end of Costa Blanca from what we have read.

Will probably end up gettinhg a car - have no qualms about driving abroad as have done it loads of times, though I believe parking...especially on the coastal resorts can be tricky - just like it is here!

I think if we can get somewhere that has the amenities reasonably close by, is reasonably flat,is not high rise and with a Spanish feel...we'll be happy:)

Thanks again

Ian & Emma

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:41pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:41pm

Santa Pola sounds similar to your description of Cambrils. Very Spanish , 1 maccas near the bus station  , 1 BK near the port.;)  8 km of flat beach front. Population 33,000 doubles during high summer. Plenty shops for day to day needs. Lots of bars & restaurants. It doesn’t go dead in winter but does have a quiet month around end Jan / beginning Feb and a few places do close for 2-3 weeks but the town centre is always active as well as the yacht marina area. 

Active fishing fleet and a marina . Lots of water sport options. 

15-20 minutes in a taxi from the airport costing average €25 depending time of day and where in town you are headed . 

Bus station has regular services to Alicante city and south to Torrevieja , as well as some longer routes like Madrid . 

Seems to have its own microclimate ….we see less rain than average on the costa Blanca ! 

Feel free to contact me if u want to know more. 
Caroline 

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32pm

I would first decide whether you want a home in a seaside location, where the population increases enormously during the holiday season and more or less dies during the winter. These places usually have a high number of 2nd homes which are only used a couple of months a year......Or would you want a good mix of Spanish/expats in a town/village a few miles from the sea, where the population stays the same and the amenities are available all year round.

Santa Pola and Guardamar are lovely seaside towns and a destination for Spanish holday makers during the holiday season. We visit them regularly in the winter season when it's quieter and there are fewer people and still a few bars/restaurants open.

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:32pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:32pm

First of all what passport do you hold, EU or UK? 

If you hold uk passports, have you looked at the income and healthcare requirements for a non lucrative visa? 

Steve 

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:42pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:42pm

Cfell63 wrote on Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:41pm:

Santa Pola sounds similar to your description of Cambrils. Very Spanish , 1 maccas near the bus station  , 1 BK near the port.;)  8 km of flat beach front. Population 33,000 doubles during high summer. Plenty shops for day to day needs. Lots of bars & restaurants. It doesn’t go de...

...ad in winter but does have a quiet month around end Jan / beginning Feb and a few places do close for 2-3 weeks but the town centre is always active as well as the yacht marina area. 

Active fishing fleet and a marina . Lots of water sport options. 

15-20 minutes in a taxi from the airport costing average €25 depending time of day and where in town you are headed . 

Bus station has regular services to Alicante city and south to Torrevieja , as well as some longer routes like Madrid . 

Seems to have its own microclimate ….we see less rain than average on the costa Blanca ! 

Feel free to contact me if u want to know more. 
Caroline 

Thank you for the info - certainly sounds like what we are after.

  The bonus of a marina is attractive, so will be adding it to the list of places to check out.

It seems a long way off, but we know the time will fly.  I suspect we will probably rent b4 buying as most of the funds will becoming from the sale of our UK home and neither of us fancy the logistics of timing a UK house sale with a Spanish property purchase!!!

Thanks once again 

Ian & Emma

ANDERSIM65

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:51pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:51pm

PeterPan wrote on Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32pm:

I would first decide whether you want a home in a seaside location, where the population increases enormously during the holiday season and more or less dies during the winter. These places usually have a high number of 2nd homes which are only used a couple of months a year......Or would you wan...

...t a good mix of Spanish/expats in a town/village a few miles from the sea, where the population stays the same and the amenities are available all year round.

Santa Pola and Guardamar are lovely seaside towns and a destination for Spanish holday makers during the holiday season. We visit them regularly in the winter season when it's quieter and there are fewer people and still a few bars/restaurants open.

Hi

Thanks for the info...I think I'm balance, if we are going to live in a place full time,  the preference would probability be somewhere where  the majority of  amenities are available all year round.

ANDERSIM65

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:15pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:15pm

tebo53 wrote on Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:32pm:

First of all what passport do you hold, EU or UK? 

If you hold uk passports, have you looked at the income and healthcare requirements for a non lucrative visa? 

Steve 

Hi Steve

Yeh...we are well aware, though by no means experts , that there is a fair bit of bureaucracy to overcome and it will be essential to get all our 'ducks in a go's to make this work.

We both now have UK passports, having both renewed in the last couple of years.

From an income point of view, for a non-profit lucrative visa,  I believe we will need to prove we have joint income of (c) € 35,000 p/a for a couple? Based on current exchange rates, we should (baring a disaster in the exchanges/markets) have plenty of headroom from our pensions and investments.

I understand we will also need some form of private health care cover..again (at the time of writing at least)  hopefully shouldn't be an issue as neither of us has any underlying/long term health issues.

All that being said....it's a fair way off...but we are acutely aware we need to get organised...so assuming we can qualify..any suggestions for areas to look at?

Growing Old Disgracefully

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:41pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:41pm

We are in a similar position and expect to finally make the move in the second half of 2025.  The second half of the year is quite important so that we don't become tax resident in Spain until the following year or we could become liable to Spanish capital gains tax on the sale of our UK property in the same year..

An important part of answering your question is the type of property that you want and your budget.  The northern Costa Blanca tends to be more expensive than the south. Our favourite place on the Costa Blanca is Moraira but to get the property that we would want within our budget we would probably have to be somewhere up a fairly steep hill a bit away from amenities - not ideal as we get older, particularly should we have to stop driving at any point as we age.

In the end, we are likely to concentrate our search on the san javier / santiago de la ribera / san pedro del pinatar area but will also be considering La Mata which is a fairly Spanish town just south of Guardamar with decent bus links into nearby Torrevieja which has far more expats but lots of amenities.

Good luck with your search.

Paul and Kate

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