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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:50pm
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Rosie

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I am in a dilemma. So far as I know my flight is still on for the 29th, but some of my family think I shouldn’t risk it, being an octogenarian, others think I should stay here in the warm. I have already been here six months.  Any thoughts on this please?

RayD

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:21pm

RayD

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:21pm

If you have been here six months you have of course registered as a resident in Spain and intended to stay, before coronavirus struck. It's your home

You have to weigh up the benefits of staying in Spain where, although under lockdown you are less likely to catch the virus, or going back to the UK where things are a lot less organised in fighting it.

Your healthcare in Spain will be top rate if you are unlucky enough to catch it. The Spanish contagion figures are higher, but we are further along the line than the UK, where you will be subject to more weeks of susceptibility.

What support do you have in Spain, against having family in the UK - although the recommendation is that older people should stay away from unquarantined family.

Also, although there are a few flights to the UK now, there aren't many and there will be a lot more cancellations in the next two weeks.

Bibba

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:24pm

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:24pm

I am thinking .....consider this:

Airports are high risk areas. Aeroplanes almost guarantee exposure, due to the recirculation of air among other things. Also flying (pressure variations ++) are a huge strain on all your autonomous systems (circulation/heart; immune defense ++).

Also remember that by travelling you contribute to the risk of spread.

It comes down to priorities, and weighing all the information you have about your situation, here and there - potential and present.

Best wishes.

aitchc1401

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:47pm

aitchc1401

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:47pm

RayD wrote on Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:21pm:

If you have been here six months you have of course registered as a resident in Spain and intended to stay, before coronavirus struck. It's your home

You have to weigh up the benefits of staying in Spain where, although under lockdown you are less likely to catch the virus, or going back to the UK where things are a lot less organised in fighting it....

...

Your healthcare in Spain will be top rate if you are unlucky enough to catch it. The Spanish contagion figures are higher, but we are further along the line than the UK, where you will be subject to more weeks of susceptibility.

What support do you have in Spain, against having family in the UK - although the recommendation is that older people should stay away from unquarantined family.

Also, although there are a few flights to the UK now, there aren't many and there will be a lot more cancellations in the next two weeks.

I think Ray has pretty well covered the options. For me it I would also take into account where you live in the UK. We are in South Lincolnshire and the treatment we have from local hospitals (Peterborough and Stamford) is first class. Not everywhere can say this.I'm sure your family can advise on the local NHS service where you live if you do not know already.

  I would not say that the UK is less organised if fighting the situation, just behind Spain in the infection cycle.  When we left Spain last Tuesday to come back to the UK there were no restrictions in Spain, by Friday all that had changed. In the last week the UK government have ramped-up their actions against the virus and they will continue to implement stricter controls as necessary. 

 You will be recommended to self-isolate in the UK, at the moment it's a recommendation, it may become mandatory in the next days/weeks for at-risk groups. The supermarkets are staring to prioritise on-line deliveries for said at-risk groups from next Monday and they are setting aside in-store shopping slots for the elderly and other high risk groups. I can see that it is now getting taken very seriously by most of the public.

I hope that whatever you choose to do do you remain safe, well and healthy.

Aitch.

Nesta

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 5:00pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 5:00pm

Bibba wrote on Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:24pm:

I am thinking .....consider this:

Airports are high risk areas. Aeroplanes almost guarantee exposure, due to the recirculation of air among other things. Also flying (pressure variations ++) are a huge strain on all your autonomous systems (circulation/heart; immune defense ++).

Also remember that by travelling you contribute to the risk of spread.

It comes down to priorities, and weighing all the information you have about your situation, here and there - potential and present.

Best wishes.

Bubba.my husband and I have no choice, we are resident in uk, came beginning of March for 2 weeks, then the lockdown. 

We pay rent in the UK and here, so must get back as its crippling us financially. 

svallely

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:34pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:34pm

Rosie. I am a doctor in the UK. PLEASE stay put. The UK Government has not a clue how to manage this. Air con on the plane means even social isolation is a joke. I appreciate you have rent in both countries but what value do you put on being safe. STAY IN SPAIN!! 

Rosie

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:27pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:27pm

svallely wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 7:34pm:

Rosie. I am a doctor in the UK. PLEASE stay put. The UK Government has not a clue how to manage this. Air con on the plane means even social isolation is a joke. I appreciate you have rent in both countries but what value do you put on being safe. STAY IN SPAIN!! 

Your answer is actually directed at the lady who last posted regarding renting in both countries.  I am Rosie and am lucky enough to have my own villa here so I have a choice.  My concern was medical appointments in the UK later in the summer but not urgent enough to take the risk of travelling for. My family agree with the doctor that I shouldn’t risk it. My next flight is booked for June 6th but I doubt we’ll  take it. It is a dilemma for many older people.

Nesta

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:58pm

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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:58pm

Rosie wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 8:27pm:

Your answer is actually directed at the lady who last posted regarding renting in both countries.  I am Rosie and am lucky enough to have my own villa here so I have a choice.  My concern was medical appointments in the UK later in the summer but not urgent enough to take the risk of tr...

...avelling for. My family agree with the doctor that I shouldn’t risk it. My next flight is booked for June 6th but I doubt we’ll  take it. It is a dilemma for many older people.

Our flight is the 6th of June unless it gets cancelled. 

Having to buy medication here, so need my usual medication .pharmacia say it's the same, but after two weeks I can feel the difference and it is not the same as I get in uk.

Hope you get your flight back, stay safe wear a face visor  .I made ours out of water bottles x

Nesta

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:03am

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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:03am

svallely wrote on Sun May 10, 2020 7:34pm:

Rosie. I am a doctor in the UK. PLEASE stay put. The UK Government has not a clue how to manage this. Air con on the plane means even social isolation is a joke. I appreciate you have rent in both countries but what value do you put on being safe. STAY IN SPAIN!! 

Thank you Svalley,but when you cannot afford to be paying two rents, which comes to 1.000 euros each month. We have no option as money is running out fast. 

So we have to go back, and have to believe that God will protect us. X

svallely

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:07am

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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:07am

Nesta wrote on Mon May 11, 2020 11:03am:

Thank you Svalley,but when you cannot afford to be paying two rents, which comes to 1.000 euros each month. We have no option as money is running out fast. 

So we have to go back, and have to believe that God will protect us. X

Wishing you all the best and hope you can stay safe. Take care

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