Sorry if this is a sort of controversial post, but me and my partner are planning to move to the Torrevieja area as soon as possible. However, having noticed that, due to Italy closing its borders, Spain, particularly the Valencia coast region, seems to be one of the places illegal migrants are now landing in, or aiming at, and have just seen in the news re Torrevieja that quite a lot of disturbance is being caused by what is described as 'Mafia Senegalese', ie violence, throwing things at the Spanish police, who actually drove away and didn't do a lot, aggression....etc., This is quite sad, because it looked very scary, and close to the tourist cafes etc., The thing is, a lot of Brits (especially pensioners) are now looking to move out of the UK (because of how things are changing so fast here) to calmer quieter safer countries, of which we all thought Spain is one of them. So that bodes very well for property sales in Spain because more Brits will be aiming that way asap I would think. So I wonder if any of you lucky people who are already living in such a lovely area, could let me know how the picture really is, as it looks a bit worrying from here. Sorry again if this is a bit of a tricky subject.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:18pm
Stop worrying :)
If you go looking for that kind of "news", you will find it. Main Stream Media profits from fear. They love to exaggerate.
Can you link to the website you got the information from? I usually try to get a base reading by looking at the nature of the rest of their content before making a judgement but I'm willing to bet its largely bigoted.
Just make the move. You will love it and won't regret it.
It's safe. Way safer than anywhere in the UK.
Good luck.
Hola Mundo........thank you so much for your kind reply, I feel much better about it now :-) …..I sent you a private message with the link, so hope it opens ok for you ….. thanks again.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:31am
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Hi,
I would say the previous post is spot on!
The Spainish police typically would not tolerate very much and are more heavy handed then the “soft British”.
Saying that, to my knowledge crime seems a lot lower here and I have not met anyone who does not feel safe anytime of the day or night!
Generally the kids and teenagers seem a lot more respectful and the fact that all police carry firearms may have something to do with that? ( not saying all crime is carried out by kids n teenagers!)
Also with the immigrants the majority seem to land further south and disperse quickly....saying that, the problem is only going to get worse before it gets better but I haven’t heard of any riots or such...definitely not locally!
All in all it’s a lot lot safer then the UK ! Go for it .you won’t regret it!
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:18am
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Torrevieja, like the rest of Spain, is safe.
Having had a flat there, we used to feel perfectly safe walking out at night, past teenage groups etc. & were very surprised to find how the young people are unusually respectful of older people.
Also had teens stay with us and had no problem letting them go out on their own at night etc.
The riots with the Senegalese you refer to, are the illegal 'looky looky' men that trade on the prom & usually play hide & seek with the police, but about once a year, the police do go in heavy handed just to make a point.
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Basil brush wrote on Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:31am:
Hi,
I would say the previous post is spot on!
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The Spainish police typically would not tolerate very much and are more heavy handed then the “soft British”.
Saying that, to my knowledge crime seems a lot lower here and I have not met anyone who does not feel safe anytime of the day or night!
Generally the kids and teenagers seem a lot more respectful and the fact that all police carry firearms may have something to do with that? ( not saying all crime is carried out by kids n teenagers!)
Also with the immigrants the majority seem to land further south and disperse quickly....saying that, the problem is only going to get worse before it gets better but I haven’t heard of any riots or such...definitely not locally!
All in all it’s a lot lot safer then the UK ! Go for it .you won’t regret it!
Thanks so much for these replies, its very reassuring, quite a few Brits I know of are planning on moving out to Spain to live, as the UK is becoming quite dodgy in so many places now, so I can pass the message on as to what the reality is, not just the headline grabbing news items. :-)
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:52pm
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Judi33 wrote on Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:57am:
Sorry if this is a sort of controversial post, but me and my partner are planning to move to the Torrevieja area as soon as possible. However, having noticed that, due to Italy closing its borders, Spain, particularly the Valencia coast region, seems to be one of the places illegal migrant...
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...s are now landing in, or aiming at, and have just seen in the news re Torrevieja that quite a lot of disturbance is being caused by what is described as 'Mafia Senegalese', ie violence, throwing things at the Spanish police, who actually drove away and didn't do a lot, aggression....etc., This is quite sad, because it looked very scary, and close to the tourist cafes etc., The thing is, a lot of Brits (especially pensioners) are now looking to move out of the UK (because of how things are changing so fast here) to calmer quieter safer countries, of which we all thought Spain is one of them. So that bodes very well for property sales in Spain because more Brits will be aiming that way asap I would think. So I wonder if any of you lucky people who are already living in such a lovely area, could let me know how the picture really is, as it looks a bit worrying from here. Sorry again if this is a bit of a tricky subject.
I think the worse thing will be the groups of drunken Brits and Irish (sorry, but it's true) during the summer months but Torrevieja and surroundings are good family resorts and don't seem to attract them like Benidorm does.
In general, Spain is a stepping stone for the migrants to reach northern Europe. If they are not detected here, and subsequently not registered, how can they be sent back here? Spain simply doesn't have the jobs or the benefits that are available elsewhere.
It's a big move but this really isn't anything to be anxious about. People talk to each other here and towns come alive at night as socialising is key.
I would also suggest renting for at least a year to see all seasons and to get a feel for the various urbanizations. Perhaps someone else can give you an idea of cost, but a few thousand spent first could mean avoiding a costly mistake further along the line and there are hundreds of options available.
Saying that, Brexit looms ominously closer now and nobody knows what is going to happen to the rights of those already living here and what, if any, difference there will be to those emigrating afterwards. The UK couldn't deal with thousands of ex-pats returning and Spain couldn't afford to see them go, so I personally think things will more or less stay the same but with different forms to fill in and maybe 10 copies of everything instead of two or three!
Flying Duck, thank you for your lovely reply to my query, I really feel so encouraged and pleased with the great response I have had on this forum. Can't wait to get over there now....sounds like just what we need! Your advice is so useful, and this is what we plan to do, to rent for six months to a year to learn about various areas etc., and to get a real 'feel' of the place. Thanks again :-)
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:26pm
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Hola reference is Torrevieja safe and the illegal immigrants please do not be afraid we are all immigrants here in Spain some people from the UK can be classed as illegal immigrants due to not having any papers and like the looky looky they also work. Torrevieja is a multicultural town i think at the last count 83 different nationalities living side by side with not a lot of problems, come live and enjoy it will be good.
Thanks for reply Bill.....very reassuring. I do understand that us Brits and other nationalities from Europe and the western world in general who have gone to live in Spain could be, and are, regarded as 'migrants' ….. but we do pay our way, respect the indigenous people, and the country, and generally speaking, behave ourselves :-) so just a bit of a difference.
We are lucky to have that opportunity to live in such a lovely country as Spain, and I appreciate that. So your kind words have also reassured me, and thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my post. I can now reassure other people who are looking in the direction of Spain as somewhere to move to, and tell them its all good :-)
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