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Janice51

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:28pm:

Hi Janice,

Approaching your local crematorium would probably give you the most cost-effective option (Covid-19 has scuppered donations for the purposes of medical science).  For comparison, you could also ask GrupoASV for a quote:

https://www.grupoasvserviciosfunerarios.com/en

We have a plan with Avalon: Eu 4,300 for both of us, which includes for our demise in Spain and the UK.  It may seem expensive to some, but they handle all the administration at what is likely to be a distressing time for spouse and other relatives.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thank you Kim,

I’ll check out the options you gave me and see what suits me best.

Take care,

Janice

patsyd

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:29pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:29pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:28pm:

Hi Janice,

Approaching your local crematorium would probably give you the most cost-effective option (Covid-19 has scuppered donations for the purposes of medical science).  For comparison, you could also ask GrupoASV for a quote:

https://www.grupoasvserviciosfunerarios.com/en

We have a plan with Avalon: Eu 4,300 for both of us, which includes for our demise in Spain and the UK.  It may seem expensive to some, but they handle all the administration at what is likely to be a distressing time for spouse and other relatives.

Kind regards,

Kim

Yes, we have an Avalon plan too. They offer 3 levels of options

Peter3473

Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 12:16pm

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ronjohan wrote on Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:04pm:

Could you exlain this please. My question was about the costs of cremation. What OTHER costs are involved in your opinion?

If cremation costs are the least WHICH COSTS ARE THE MOST?

Regards,

Ronald

I think tp20 post is about legalities re will, deeds ,bank accounts, pensions, taxes, house hold bills, my neighbour who lost her husband in April is still sorting with her legal team to date and has minimal money available to get the process done quickly. I am on the understanding the cost so far is in the region of 5K+, So make sure everything is in good order. 

ronjohan

Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 2:56pm

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Peter3473 wrote on Sun Nov 1, 2020 12:16pm:

I think tp20 post is about legalities re will, deeds ,bank accounts, pensions, taxes, house hold bills, my neighbour who lost her husband in April is still sorting with her legal team to date and has minimal money available to get the process done quickly. I am on the understanding the cost so fa...

...r is in the region of 5K+, So make sure everything is in good order. 

Can anybody react on this?

Still a bit vague. 5000 euro´s ?

Will : I am married , what i leave will go to my spouse. What could be the problem?

Deeds: What deeds? I rent a house, what other deeds could be there?

Bankaccounts: I have a joint one. What action should I take towards the bank?

Taxes: Why would the be higher income taxe payable than in case my spouse would bre still alive. Whsat other taxes are you refering to?

House hold bills? energy? water? what do you mean. Why should they raise? One person left in the household ..

Could you other anybody else elaborate please??

Thanks and regards,

Ronald

Peter3473

Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 3:21pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 3:21pm

ronjohan wrote on Sun Nov 1, 2020 2:56pm:

Can anybody react on this?

Still a bit vague. 5000 euro´s ?

Will : I am married , what i leave will go to my spouse. What could be the problem?

Deeds: What deeds? I rent a house, what other deeds could be there?

Bankaccounts: I have a joint one. What action should I take towards the bank?

Taxes: Why would the be higher income taxe payable than in case my spouse would bre still alive. Whsat other taxes are you refering to?

House hold bills? energy? water? what do you mean. Why should they raise? One person left in the household ..

Could you other anybody else elaborate please??

Thanks and regards,

Ronald

5K legalities 

Spanish Will = paper work and  Legalities 

No deeds, Rental agreement update 

Bank accounts frozen if joint account and need updating 

Tax = legalities 

Household bills/contracts updating 

My neighbour really struggled as her late husband set/agreed/signed and whatever was needed for everything.

I hope I have elaborated on your post and good luck. Stay safe and healthy my friend.

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ronjohan

Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 3:45pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 3:45pm

Peter3473 wrote on Sun Nov 1, 2020 3:21pm:

5K legalities 

Spanish Will = paper work and  Legalities 

No deeds, Rental agreement update 

Bank accounts frozen if joint account and need updating 

Tax = legalities 

Household bills/contracts updating 

My neighbour really struggled as her late husband set/agreed/signed and whatever was needed for everything.

I hope I have elaborated on your post and good luck. Stay safe and healthy my friend.

Thanks, friend. What do you mean by tax = legalities?

Spanish Will : What could be the problem if we show our DUTCH wedding book.

Is spanish marital not just that the spouse is entitled to everything.

What IS the problem with a joint account?

Are there any taxes related to dying?

Sorry that I ask so many questions, but maybe you are willing to explain.

Regards,

Ronald

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 4:37pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 4:37pm

Hi Ronald,

Are you Spanish residents with Spanish Wills?  I don't know the succession laws of The Netherlands, but Spanish inheritance laws are quite different to the UK.  For example, in the UK, unless the deceased has gifted their estate, or parts of it, to other inheritors, it would pass automatically to the surviving spouse.  However, in Spain, any children inherit before the spouse.  To get around this, UK residents in Spain typically make their Spanish Wills covering only their Spanish assets, but with UK law prevailing.

Regarding taxes, if you own the property jointly with your spouse, when one dies, the partner has to inherit the other 50%.

Regarding bank accounts, it is usual for banks to freeze 50% of a joint account while the deceased's estate is resolved.

It is important to ensure that the Inheritance Deed is issued within 6 months of the death and to include any other significant assets, such as a car.

Regarding utilities, you just need to make sure you have sufficient copies of the certified Death Certificate to ensure you can switch any bills in the deceased's name to your own.

If you are Non-resident in Spain, you still have to formally inherit your spouse's share of any joint assets.  I would recommend you speak to a specialist inheritance lawyer and put any necessary arrangements in place.

Kind regards,

Kim

Peter3473

Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 5:15pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 5:15pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Nov 1, 2020 4:37pm:

Hi Ronald,

Are you Spanish residents with Spanish Wills?  I don't know the succession laws of The Netherlands, but Spanish inheritance laws are quite different to the UK.  For example, in the UK, unless the deceased has gifted their estate, or parts of it, to other inheritors, it would pass automa...

...tically to the surviving spouse.  However, in Spain, any children inherit before the spouse.  To get around this, UK residents in Spain typically make their Spanish Wills covering only their Spanish assets, but with UK law prevailing.

Regarding taxes, if you own the property jointly with your spouse, when one dies, the partner has to inherit the other 50%.

Regarding bank accounts, it is usual for banks to freeze 50% of a joint account while the deceased's estate is resolved.

It is important to ensure that the Inheritance Deed is issued within 6 months of the death and to include any other significant assets, such as a car.

Regarding utilities, you just need to make sure you have sufficient copies of the certified Death Certificate to ensure you can switch any bills in the deceased's name to your own.

If you are Non-resident in Spain, you still have to formally inherit your spouse's share of any joint assets.  I would recommend you speak to a specialist inheritance lawyer and put any necessary arrangements in place.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thank you Kimmy11, all I know my neighbour did not expect all the changes/charges, especially when she was informed that the deeds to the property had to be formalised including land registry, I feel the bulk of the fees were the lawyers who have helped with everything, but as my neighbour said she thought It would be so easy having a Will !! Thank you again for your input and clarifies or helps Ronald’s post.

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Nov 1, 2020 5:38pm

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Hi Peter,

A friend of mine has been through something similar recently too, but I feel her advisors really let her down.  They didn't tell her about including the car, which was solely in her husband's name, in the Inheritance Deed and they didn't tell her the Inheritance Deed had to be finalised within 6 months of her husband's death.  Their errors cost her thousands more than should have been necessary.  Needless to say, I don't recommend them!

It's so much more complicated - and expensive - in Spain, than in the UK.  Much better to get to grips with it when both parties are well.

Kind regards, 

Kim

ronjohan

Posted: Mon Nov 2, 2020 8:47am

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Posted: Mon Nov 2, 2020 8:47am

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Nov 1, 2020 4:37pm:

Hi Ronald,

Are you Spanish residents with Spanish Wills?  I don't know the succession laws of The Netherlands, but Spanish inheritance laws are quite different to the UK.  For example, in the UK, unless the deceased has gifted their estate, or parts of it, to other inheritors, it would pass automa...

...tically to the surviving spouse.  However, in Spain, any children inherit before the spouse.  To get around this, UK residents in Spain typically make their Spanish Wills covering only their Spanish assets, but with UK law prevailing.

Regarding taxes, if you own the property jointly with your spouse, when one dies, the partner has to inherit the other 50%.

Regarding bank accounts, it is usual for banks to freeze 50% of a joint account while the deceased's estate is resolved.

It is important to ensure that the Inheritance Deed is issued within 6 months of the death and to include any other significant assets, such as a car.

Regarding utilities, you just need to make sure you have sufficient copies of the certified Death Certificate to ensure you can switch any bills in the deceased's name to your own.

If you are Non-resident in Spain, you still have to formally inherit your spouse's share of any joint assets.  I would recommend you speak to a specialist inheritance lawyer and put any necessary arrangements in place.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thanks Kim,

We are dutch residents indeed.

We do NOT own a car.

We do NOT own a house.

Question: are there any costs expected towards changing the rental contract? The rental contract is on both names. I guess the agent could change the contract but why should he, as long as the owner will keep receiving the rent?

We have NO children. We have a marital book.

Question: should the marital book  be translated in spanish?

We have a shared account : does anybody has an idea how to prevent freezing this?

Take 2 extra accounts not shared?

We still have a bank in our homecountry. So mayby limiting the outstanding money on the spanish bank would be advisable?

Is having a will absolutely necessary in our case, not owning estate,car, not having children?

Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks.

regards,

Ronald

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