Life after Coronavirus - Page 4

Stay positive folks. Things will be fine in time.  

Remember, while the days may drag the months and years fly by. 

Yes interesting. I found it particularly interesting that they mentioned they were doing 'voluntary' social distancing and working from home etc. I think in the real world, voluntary means most people doing what they want and getting within close proximity to other people. Either way, and according to the chart published by the website below, Sweden has less than half deaths per 1 million population than Spain which surely means that this lock down has not done anything to slow or stop what would of ended up happening anyway. The same goes for South Korea, who acted off a different computer model than what the likes the UK did via the one put out by UCL.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

I think that would be wishful thinking Derekings. I hate to be negative, and i admire those who are positive in all this, but i just tell things as i see them. Most economies were still struggling from the 2008 crash. Now this has come along, i believe it will be the final nail in the coffin. You just can't shut down the worlds economies (notice China's is open) and expect that thing will be OK. IF, and it's a big IF, the economies opened today, then maybe you may have a very small shred of recovery. As things stand, those in the west are still shut down. I see that we were in a bad situation and this has only served to make it ten times worse. I would like to be wrong, but unfortunatly i don't see any other outcome.

If Spain, although the economy will suffer this year, the injection of cash from the EU will help rebuild the tourist industry, which will flourish again next year.

Have you seen any accurate up to date numbers? 

The only numbers I've seen so far related to a central fund for all of the EU members; it frighteningly low and won't even touch the sides. I've also read that some of the richer members are simply refusing to share the debt of the poorer ones on this, but that is more likely a power-play than an actual position.

Attempts though, from anyone, to try to turn this into a UK Vs Spain/EU argument is childish.

100% agree with your final point. Is there a model to predict how long it takes for any thread on this forum to include the words “snowflake” or “remoaner”? 

If your into conspiracy 'theories', i suggest you watch this 40 minute walk and talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1xXU3lfjM

LOL.

And the award for today's passive-aggressive post goes too... RayD!

I've looked at that site and a few others, but can't see any reference to €3.2tn. Not saying it's not there, only I can't see it. My piss poor Spanish and Googles refusal to translate some sites doesn't help.

EDIT: Found it. As you say, not passed yet, but more worrying for Spain... No mention of joint debt, as it seems that's a red line for Germany. Which I think means Spain will be paying it back for decades to come. And also makes me worry that the EU will pull a "Greece" on Spain, forcing the country into austerity for the next decade or so.

EDIT: EDIT: If my maths is right (it normally isn't) assuming that money is roughly spread out per capita, that's only about €330bn to Spain. Is that enough? Even taking Spain's strong manufacturing and agriculture trade into account, with such a reliance on tourism I wouldn't have thought that would be enough. Double that maybe, but €330bn don't go far nowadays, not with 45million mouths to feed.

Eh? I don't understand that comment at all! 

This was aimed at a typical snidey post from a bloke called "Graeme " on here, it seems like he has deleted all his posts, oh well 

Just been doing a bit of reading... 

Agriculture is only 2.6% GDP, I expected double that at least. Tourism is 11%, which is higher than I thought. 

Services, which I should think covers more or less all tourism is 73%. 

I think entertainment and restaurants are not included in tourism but are included in services, so it follows that the real tourism figure will be substantially higher than 11% due to indirect expenditure. Maybe 15%?