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Heats21

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:43pm

Posts: 37

13 helpful points

Location: Monte Azul

Joined: 8 May 2021

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:43pm

Karen204 wrote on Mon May 24, 2021 4:03pm:

Heats21:  Thank you.  It is yet another unbelievably unfair situation.  The Spanish authorities are protecting the wrong people, in my opinion.  The squatters won't do anything to improve the economy and neither will I, or thousands like me, if I cannot travel to Spain to enjo...

...y my home.  No flights,  no taxi or hire car, no dinners out in Spanish bars/restaurants, no purchases in the market, etc. etc.   Not being able to visit my own home in Spain will mean I spend my money elsewhere and not in Spain. :(

Just awful, We are looking to buy in Monte Azul, Ciudad Quesada, area, but trying to find out about break in's etc in these areas but not any response yet. Read about recent break in & car etc stolen in Dona Pepe, so it's really off putting. It's a holiday home purpose, so concerned about leaving it locked up when not in use. I think if someone squatted in my property we would take action ourselves to remove them if police & gov did nothing. Why should squatters live rent free & sometimes destroy property & get away with it. After all you work hard & save most your working life to be able to purchase & enjoy your 2nd/holiday home. They have taken advantage of covid pandemic & it's a disgrace the police & gov do nothing. I really hope someone can help you get this problem sorted. 

Steve6

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:12pm

Steve6

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Posts: 585

419 helpful points

Location: Torrevieja

Joined: 29 Feb 2020

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:12pm

They even rip out the pipe work and boilers to sell also the wires. Not nice

Heats21

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 7:18pm

Posts: 37

13 helpful points

Location: Monte Azul

Joined: 8 May 2021

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 7:18pm

Steve6 wrote on Mon May 24, 2021 6:12pm:

They even rip out the pipe work and boilers to sell also the wires. Not nice

They have no humanity or concern for others. We viewed a property online viewing in Monte Azul, near Ciudad Quesada & Beniofjar. Looking at it we think that someone has gone in, taken front door off, taps & fittings gone & also kitchen. Was thinking of buying in that area but if this is happening to empty properties maybe it not the area for us. Asked on the forum about break in's in the area but had no response. So will wait & look & see for ourselves what area is best. Any help on that be appreciated. Maybe shame the police & gov to take action by getting a TV documentary done on how they are letting squatters rule Spain because the gov & police let them, I'm sure there is enough property owners with the same predicament. Something shocking like this should be done🤔

Karen204

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 12:37am

Posts: 34

14 helpful points

Location: Torrevieja

Joined: 12 Apr 2021

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 12:37am

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To be honest, even if I could travel to Spain I am no longer permitted to enter my own property.   The squatter has rights and is now protected by law.  I could be prosecuted for 'intimidation' if I try to access my own house.   I have spoken to lawyers, but they are really unhelpful as the Courts are so slow and the squatters know how to manipulate the law in their favour.   It is so unfair and frustrating and depressing.  No-one has any positive suggestions.   I can see no way forward at the moment. 

delsmith

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:31pm

Posts: 26

9 helpful points

Location: Torrevieja

Joined: 25 Jan 2021

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:31pm

Karen204 wrote on Tue May 25, 2021 12:37am:

To be honest, even if I could travel to Spain I am no longer permitted to enter my own property.   The squatter has rights and is now protected by law.  I could be prosecuted for 'intimidation' if I try to access my own house.   I have spoken to lawyers, but they are real...

...ly unhelpful as the Courts are so slow and the squatters know how to manipulate the law in their favour.   It is so unfair and frustrating and depressing.  No-one has any positive suggestions.   I can see no way forward at the moment. 

Hi Karen

I appreciate this is not an ideal solution and only suitable in some situations...

This happened to someone i knew in Salou area and they-

1 got the place watched to establish a pattern of movement which luckily they achieved

2 'gained entry' back into their property and fitted an armoured door etc

3 basically camped out in their property for weeks to give impression of non-holiday home 

Don't know what happened long term as we lost contact with the person

  

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Heats21

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:59pm

Posts: 37

13 helpful points

Location: Monte Azul

Joined: 8 May 2021

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:59pm

delsmith wrote on Tue May 25, 2021 7:31pm:

Hi Karen

I appreciate this is not an ideal solution and only suitable in some situations...

This happened to someone i knew in Salou area and they-

1 got the place watched to establish a pattern of movement which luckily they achieved

2 'gained entry' back into their property and fitted an armoured door etc

3 basically camped out in their property for weeks to give impression of non-holiday home 

Don't know what happened long term as we lost contact with the person

  

Exactly what we would do. Good for them your friends taking back control of their property & there lives. More people should start to do this. Squatters think that people are afraid to take back there property because of the protection the government has given them. Its them that have broken the law by theft & in most cases destruction of your properties. You have invested & supported the Spanish economy with your hard earned cash & the squatters have stolen & damaged from the economy. So who deserves to have your home. In my opinion it's you & the many others that are in the same situation.  If the Spanish gov & lawyers don't help you. Its time to do it for yourself & I'm sure there is others that will help. "PLEASE SOME ONE HELP THESE VICTIMS OF CRIME" I would if I was out there. 

Karen204

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 2:47pm

Posts: 34

14 helpful points

Location: Torrevieja

Joined: 12 Apr 2021

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 2:47pm

Heats21 wrote on Tue May 25, 2021 7:59pm:

Exactly what we would do. Good for them your friends taking back control of their property & there lives. More people should start to do this. Squatters think that people are afraid to take back there property because of the protection the government has given them. Its them that have broken ...

...the law by theft & in most cases destruction of your properties. You have invested & supported the Spanish economy with your hard earned cash & the squatters have stolen & damaged from the economy. So who deserves to have your home. In my opinion it's you & the many others that are in the same situation.  If the Spanish gov & lawyers don't help you. Its time to do it for yourself & I'm sure there is others that will help. "PLEASE SOME ONE HELP THESE VICTIMS OF CRIME" I would if I was out there. 

Many thanks.  I feel the same way, but due to travel restrictions and work commitments I am not able to spend weeks at a time in Spain.  I shall try to organise for the house to be taken back, at a time when I am able to travel to Spain.   Then, sadly,  I shall sell up.  I cannot live my life in fear of the house being occupied once again, as soon as my back is turned.    As you can imagine, I have already had many sleepless nights due to the anger and frustration.    Thanks for your comments and support.  It is much appreciated. 

Heats21

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 3:15pm

Posts: 37

13 helpful points

Location: Monte Azul

Joined: 8 May 2021

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 3:15pm

Karen204 wrote on Wed May 26, 2021 2:47pm:

Many thanks.  I feel the same way, but due to travel restrictions and work commitments I am not able to spend weeks at a time in Spain.  I shall try to organise for the house to be taken back, at a time when I am able to travel to Spain.   Then, sadly,  I shall sell up.&n...

...bsp; I cannot live my life in fear of the house being occupied once again, as soon as my back is turned.    As you can imagine, I have already had many sleepless nights due to the anger and frustration.    Thanks for your comments and support.  It is much appreciated. 

Your more than welcome, I really hope it all works out for you for the best. Wish you all the luck in the world you deserve it. 😊🤞

oadbyman

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:45pm

oadbyman

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Posts: 232

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Joined: 14 Jun 2020

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:45pm

Karen204 wrote on Mon May 24, 2021 12:56am:

Dear Bibba. Many thanks for taking the time to explain this situation.  Sadly, despite the fact that I followed correct procedures and employed a lawyer, the police in Torrevieja were simply not interested in my situation.  The occupation of my house by a squatter was notified to the po...

...lice within 24 hours, but the police took not action whatsoever.  I am stuck in the UK until travel restrictions are lifted and the squatter is enjoying life in my house, at my expense.  

 get the water and electric cut off, you will have to pay to reinstate but may solve your problem, risk of state of property increases with time

Karen204

Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2021 4:35pm

Posts: 34

14 helpful points

Location: Torrevieja

Joined: 12 Apr 2021

Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2021 4:35pm

Steve6 wrote on Mon May 24, 2021 6:12pm:

They even rip out the pipe work and boilers to sell also the wires. Not nice

I have had a quote back from Desokupa.com.   They charge 4,500 euros, plus IVA to deal with these situations.   Needless to say, I am still reeling.  

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